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Ok that makes sense;)
That's progressive mode.
So following wowie's advice for the opacity filters and adding SSS (subsurface scattering ) to the hair + making it a bit rougher, and adjusting skin SSS a bit, here she is... where should I take her next? Some alien worlds with mercury seas or maybe Urban Sprawl LOL? I will have to start converting Urban Sprawl 2, (the only version I own) sooner or later, it will take some time for sure=)
Hmm so she decided to put on some skimpy armor lol. Wonder where she's going?
Rendertime 6 min.
10 min render
...one more...
If I understand Wowie's comment, turning off optimization for the hair will give the best render. It is also the slowest render.
100% optimization with tweaked filters will give almost as good a render as no optimization but runs a lot faster.
Anywho, here is my attempt with 100% optimization - adding displacement also helped but it looks as though displacement also incurs a render time hit.
Yeah I think you're right.
That's very nice! Love the reflections in the hair:) I think the hair looks good, did you try setting optimization/filters to zero for the skullcap? I like the skin too, well done!
So here I had optimazation and filters off for the skull cap, hair optimization at 100%, filter 1 at 50%, filter 2 at 40%, lowered filter2 for the bangs to 30%, that's Wanda hair for G2F btw. Genesis1 with a V4 skin...
Thanks for the comment.
Actually, I ran it 3 times. Once with no optimization, once with no optimization on skull cap and once with all parts optimized. There were small differences with quality but big differences with render time.
OK, I lied. It was way more than 3 times as I played around with different optimization settings.
In general, yes, since it's still that famed 3Delight displacement where you get every.detail.off.your.texture(tm) but since it's all raytraced, including camera rays, it will take up more time to render.
Now some info that I do not really expect anyone to fully "get" because it's "alien arcane tech", but for the sake of completeness: 3Delight supports a "contemporary" displacement mode now, the one like in Iray or Carrara where only actual mesh vertices will get displaced, and it's fast, but it's obviously a) way more limited in use; b) requires heavy pre-tesselation (not actual subdivision surfaces), which will often crash DS if you do it via the subdivision menu.
This last part probably makes the least sense, but I'll try - you have seen there are several subdivision algorithms in there.
For Iray, all of them just tesselate the mesh AFAIK.
For 3Delight, Catmark and Catmull-Clark (and in the latest versions one more, forgot right now which one) make it render the actual limit surface of a subdivision mesh. Which means that mathematically all the surfaces are now truly smooth for the renderer, no jagged poly edges.
This is BTW why "sub-d level" makes no difference with Cat* modes in 3Delight: it always renders the "infinite maximum" level. Either on or off.
And the remaining subdivision modes send a high-poly polygon mesh to 3Delight. Then the sub-d level will control how many times your control mesh polys will get tesselated.
So it's a bit convoluted with DS, and because of this, Wowie hasn't yet integrated support for this "new" displacement mode.
I'm listening
That would be bilinear?
Not sure I get that? If you have a model with HD morphs, there is a significant difference between subD level 1 and 2 ( and you can go as high as level 4 and still get more detail)
Tks Kettu, very interesting piece of information;)
Hmm I might revisite this one, I find the background a bit distracting, something happened in the rendering, oversaturated or something
Here it is anyway...
...back to earth, sort of, she got tired of being alone on the dark side, so she got herself a brand new bike;) Steambike pro and Watts building converted...Note the high heels, perfect for riding Uranium bikes
Actually, IPR isn't progressive mode, although it shares similarities. It's basically an interactive render session, where you can adjust materials and lights as the render, well, rendering. You'll need to have the Aux Viewport open/docked. By default, it will show the IPR toolbar with buttons to stop/start an IPR session. I usually hide the toolbar and just use the pane's dropdown menu though.
Here's an example. I have the Aux Viewport docked to the center section of DS UI. Unfortunately, changes to path traced area lights needs a restart, but materials and spot/point/distant light don't.
Personal note - I hate how IPR is done in newer 3delight builds (progressively scaled buckets). I find the older builds more to my liking since it only updates pixels with changed parameters.
Is there anything that's not unnecessarily convoluted with DS?
I've made some progress on displacement bounds though.
Vector displacement isn't rocket science, but it's not like flipping your hand either.
First priority is to fix the bugs and then introduce new features while trying not to introduce new bugs.
Wow tks for the heads up, nice feature indeed:)
G1 character, Mil4 Mon chevalier hair, G3 Super natural fibermesh eyebrows.
She is cute;) Nice eye reflections there! Brows look very good, I don't own any fibermesh brows, off to check the store... have a render going with Urban Sprawl 2 atm. Took me about 2h to do a rough conversion lol, millions of material zones
So here's US 2 converted to awe, lit with an HDRI. Had Irradiance samples at 1024, still a bit grainy though. Still need to finetune some things obviously...
She's got fleety feet
Thanks guys.
The freckles are from Zevo's skin overlay and the eyes are using Dimension Theory's project eyeris. I can't seem to get the AWE shader to give me any kind of environment reflection in the eyes.
Haha I totally bought it, project eyeris obviously works:) Here's what I do, wowie might have some better tips: on the cornea(genesis1) I enable both spedular 1&2, color pure white and roughness zero or maybe 1%. IOR 1.59. Enable base thinfilm, thinfilm IOR 1.50. You probably know that but don't blur the environment too much;) Thinfilm seems to enhance the reflections quite a lot (maybe beyond realistic) but that can be adjusted. I may have a better solution tomorrow lol.
A quick unfinished testrender with an overcast HDRI with no direct sunlight (hotspots) in progressive mode
Haven't tested various glosssy fresnel settings yet, but that may make a difference depending on angles etc.
Yeah, I tried most of that but the eyes just wouldn't pick up any environment reflection. Probably just doing something wrong. With so many options, it's easy to miss something you should be paying attention to.
What I really like about eyeris is that reflection is set on the sclera as wall as the cornea so it works just as well as eye reflection surface in later models.
Yeah tell me all about it
Did this overnight render just to wake up and find this strange dark line crossing the road, I have no clue what that is. Have to go back and check surfaces
Cool, I should wishlist it;)
Just curious, is that a seam between modules? Maybe there is some default material there. Also looks like there is an issue around the arrow to the right of the bike.
Cool looking render, though.
AWE shaders, scripted render, IBLM environment for the shadow catcher.