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  • TomhipTomhip Posts: 381

    PixelPie said:

    I got a response to my ticket.  There is a button to upgrade ~ the upgrade path is now self serve 

    I got the same answer except I do not have the "Choose plan" button on Premier section....

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,905

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    The blurb says

    Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On

    Automatically available for download for all Premier Members*

    LEARN MORE *Item will be available 1 day after subscribing to Premier. Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    so maybe, even if you are already a member, there is a slight delay? We will ask.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,905

    Richard Haseltine said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    The blurb says

    Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On

    Automatically available for download for all Premier Members*

    LEARN MORE *Item will be available 1 day after subscribing to Premier. Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    so maybe, even if you are already a member, there is a slight delay? We will ask.

    The product shouldbe there, though apparently the actual files are missing. Check which Install State filter (along the bottom) you are using - All or Avaialble will show things you haven't installed. I generally fin it easiest to use the Install pane, which shows only and all uninstalled products.

  • spectralfrank88spectralfrank88 Posts: 6

    I have two questions, pardon me if they have been answered already - there's a lot of posts here to get through.
    The first question is about the coupon - if I already used my 6$ coupon, and I upgrade to Premiere will the Premiere coupon be marked as used?
    And second, I know someone hinted there might be more character bundles this month, was there any confirmation on that ( I know Vicky was released today, I mean beside that one)?

  • ainm.sloinneadhainm.sloinneadh Posts: 418

    spectralfrank88 said:

    I have two questions, pardon me if they have been answered already - there's a lot of posts here to get through.
    The first question is about the coupon - if I already used my 6$ coupon, and I upgrade to Premiere will the Premiere coupon be marked as used?
    And second, I know someone hinted there might be more character bundles this month, was there any confirmation on that ( I know Vicky was released today, I mean beside that one)?

    On your first question, yes, you'll get additional coupons. It's confirmed in the sticky thread at the top of this forum. May be worth spending both your Daz+ coupons before upgrading your membership. 

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,974

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    The blurb says

    Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On

    Automatically available for download for all Premier Members*

    LEARN MORE *Item will be available 1 day after subscribing to Premier. Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    so maybe, even if you are already a member, there is a slight delay? We will ask.

    The product shouldbe there, though apparently the actual files are missing. Check which Install State filter (along the bottom) you are using - All or Avaialble will show things you haven't installed. I generally fin it easiest to use the Install pane, which shows only and all uninstalled products.

    Ah... thank you Richard, but still nothing is found in Smart Content > wherever Installed, Available, Pending, yada yada ~

  • spectralfrank88spectralfrank88 Posts: 6

    ainm.sloinneadh said:

    spectralfrank88 said:

    I have two questions, pardon me if they have been answered already - there's a lot of posts here to get through.
    The first question is about the coupon - if I already used my 6$ coupon, and I upgrade to Premiere will the Premiere coupon be marked as used?
    And second, I know someone hinted there might be more character bundles this month, was there any confirmation on that ( I know Vicky was released today, I mean beside that one)?

    On your first question, yes, you'll get additional coupons. It's confirmed in the sticky thread at the top of this forum. May be worth spending both your Daz+ coupons before upgrading your membership. 

    Thank you. 

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,613

    Please pardon me if these questions have already been answered, but I've looked unsuccessfully for the answers. Does anybody know:

    1. How long will the personalized offer to upgrade from DAZ+ to Premier will last?

    2. How long will the current batch of Free character bundles be available to choose from? (I quite like the Walter one with the hair and beard)

    3. How long will the Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On be available to Premier subscribers?

    4. If you don't get the Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On while it's available, does that mean there will be no way to ever get it? (or other future exclusive Premier add-on content)

    Thanks in advance for any info anyone can provide - it's much appreciated!

    - Greg

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,715

    algovincian said:

    3. How long will the Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On be available to Premier subscribers?

    it says "Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6)" so I assume only people who joined before that will get it.

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,613

    Leana said:

    algovincian said:

    3. How long will the Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On be available to Premier subscribers?

    it says "Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6)" so I assume only people who joined before that will get it.

    Oh thanks @Leana - missed that and must be blind! 

    I, like many I assume, would rather wait until my current DAZ+ expires before switching to Premier and am trying to figure out exactly what that means I'll miss so I can make an informed decision.

    - Greg

  • NorochjNorochj Posts: 4

    If the upgrade were the difference in price between Daz+ and Premium at the current market rate, I would have considered it, but I am not throwing away several months of value when I am subbed until 11/2025.

  • Blood-PawWerewolfBlood-PawWerewolf Posts: 319

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    DAZ Connect somehow returns... 

  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,406

    Blood-PawWerewolf said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    DAZ Connect somehow returns... 

    More accurately Connect Encrypted Content, in the worst possible form. Tied to so much other stuff that now they don't have to worry that their encrypted content won't sell so they don't have to worry about folks refusing to purchase it, which is what eventually killed off the last push for Connect Encrypted. 

  • StorypilotStorypilot Posts: 1,675

    Since I just had a little over a month remaining on my PC/Daz+ membership, I decided to take the deal for a free trial of premier. It's bittersweet, I've been a member for over a decade, but the new price and no annual option means I'll have to let it go for now. The trial of premier will make for a nice grand finale celebration during these sales, so I am grateful for that. 

  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 796

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    The blurb says

    Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On

    Automatically available for download for all Premier Members*

    LEARN MORE *Item will be available 1 day after subscribing to Premier. Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    so maybe, even if you are already a member, there is a slight delay? We will ask.

    The product shouldbe there, though apparently the actual files are missing. Check which Install State filter (along the bottom) you are using - All or Avaialble will show things you haven't installed. I generally fin it easiest to use the Install pane, which shows only and all uninstalled products.

    Thanks. The product is now available for download. My suspicion was confirmed, though. The shape addon comes with a character preset that needs materials from the Toon Vicky 9 figure. Looks like it was supposed to be a permanent part of the bundle. It should've used the Base Toon G9 to avoid error reports from individuals who don't own Vicky.

    If my subscription expires and I decide to renew a few months later, will I still get access to previous Premier-exclusive items I added in my account?

  • Blood-PawWerewolfBlood-PawWerewolf Posts: 319

    y3kman said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    The blurb says

    Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On

    Automatically available for download for all Premier Members*

    LEARN MORE *Item will be available 1 day after subscribing to Premier. Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    so maybe, even if you are already a member, there is a slight delay? We will ask.

    The product shouldbe there, though apparently the actual files are missing. Check which Install State filter (along the bottom) you are using - All or Avaialble will show things you haven't installed. I generally fin it easiest to use the Install pane, which shows only and all uninstalled products.

    Thanks. The product is now available for download. My suspicion was confirmed, though. The shape addon comes with a character preset that needs materials from the Toon Vicky 9 figure. Looks like it was supposed to be a permanent part of the bundle. It should've used the Base Toon G9 to avoid error reports from individuals who don't own Vicky.

    If my subscription expires and I decide to renew a few months later, will I still get access to previous Premier-exclusive items I added in my account?

    that i think it might, since it's tied to your account, but idk for sure

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,444

    daveso said:

    Robert Freise said:

    Step one in turning Studio into a subscription

    if it comes to that, it will be my last day. I'm not too sure I will update DS after this. I went to 4.23, but I'm not too sure I want to risk some sleeper app or something embedded in there somewhere. Just the current deal with locking us out of stuff without a sub isn;t too good, and probably should be looked at as a warniong to things to come.  

    I used to use Studio along side Poser and had to stop when they started that obsolet and useless call home function in Poser 

  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,406

    Question: Can anyone point to a single instance of any software going subscription-based even partially where the perpetual and free options weren't left abandoned to rot? That is if they weren't deliberately hobbled to push people to subscribe.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,974
     

    Thanks. The product is now available for download. My suspicion was confirmed, though. The shape addon comes with a character preset that needs materials from the Toon Vicky 9 figure. Looks like it was supposed to be a permanent part of the bundle. It should've used the Base Toon G9 to avoid error reports from individuals who don't own Vicky.

    If my subscription expires and I decide to renew a few months later, will I still get access to previous Premier-exclusive items I added in my account?

    Which product ? You mean Dark Elf addon ? Where could you download it ?

  • iceltyllc@gmail.com[email protected] Posts: 24

    TesseractSpace said:

    Question: Can anyone point to a single instance of any software going subscription-based even partially where the perpetual and free options weren't left abandoned to rot? That is if they weren't deliberately hobbled to push people to subscribe.

    To be frank, nearly everything about this software seems like it's been left to decay. I've been waiting for improved animation tools for what feels like 10-15 years, if not more. The whole industry has moved towards that, yet DAZ seems content with just playing dress-up. Don't get me wrong, I still have a soft spot for DAZ, but I haven't stopped searching for alternatives. Nowadays, I'm doing almost everything in Blender, which I wish wasn't the case, but I've been pushed in that direction.

  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 796

    crosswind said:

     

    Thanks. The product is now available for download. My suspicion was confirmed, though. The shape addon comes with a character preset that needs materials from the Toon Vicky 9 figure. Looks like it was supposed to be a permanent part of the bundle. It should've used the Base Toon G9 to avoid error reports from individuals who don't own Vicky.

    If my subscription expires and I decide to renew a few months later, will I still get access to previous Premier-exclusive items I added in my account?

    Which product ? You mean Dark Elf addon ? Where could you download it ?

    The Dark Elf shape addon is product 105315 and can be installed from Smart Content tab. To locate it, you can either click on the magnifying glass (Premier exclusive filter, key::dsp_exclusive) or sort your products by highest product ID.

  • kprkpr Posts: 113
    edited October 11

    crosswind said:

    SnowSultan said:

    Not quite, the upper arm still hangs straight down, but the forearm is bent 90 degrees, I guess more like how an old west cowboy would quickly draw a gun. Sorry for the vague description, when I get back to my PC, I will take a screenshot. Thanks.

    So I don't continue to derail this thread, I did try the Premier Geometry Editor tool briefly yesterday. It's not bad, and decent if you want to make comically large morphs (like long ears or big noses), but it doesn't seem useful for many of things we've asked for in the past, like micropressure 'skindentations' for clothing. It seems OK for making impacts, like punches or objects colliding with skin. I'd say it's worth using if you don't want to use Blender or if you don't have Zbrush.

    Okay, pls take your time. And I think you mean Geometry Sculptor tool ? I paid one month's Premier only for trying that tool. Well, though it's better than Mesh Grabber 3.0, but it's still limited... only with Draw / Smooth brush, still no Mask, Undo still doesn't work on the items with same Node Names... and Symmetry function has a big bug devil yada yada ~~

    @crosswind I was interested in MeshGraber 4 (I wasn't so interested that I immediately upgraded to Premier!)

    Could you tell me if you can "add" geometery to a model with the "Premier Hijacked Version" of MG4? Like add a pair of horns to a human head.

    You can sort of do this in Hexagon (and Daz Bridge), by extending existing polys, but you can't add new polys (if you do, the Daz Bridge won't import it - Maybe you can do the same in Blender, and import it with MorphLoaderPro?)

    If/when you've a little while, be great if you'd check on the functionality in Premier smiley

    Post edited by kpr on
  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,496
    edited October 11

    TesseractSpace said:

    Blood-PawWerewolf said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    DAZ Connect somehow returns... 

    More accurately Connect Encrypted Content, in the worst possible form. Tied to so much other stuff that now they don't have to worry that their encrypted content won't sell so they don't have to worry about folks refusing to purchase it, which is what eventually killed off the last push for Connect Encrypted. 

    I was actually thinking about subscribing to Premier, in the hopes that Vicky 9's Toon bundle may have been included in the free bundle offer. But that line that I've marked in bold brought me down to Earth. Daz are really killing any love that I had for the program.

    Post edited by N-RArts on
  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 1,999

    crosswind said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    The blurb says

    Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On

    Automatically available for download for all Premier Members*

    LEARN MORE *Item will be available 1 day after subscribing to Premier. Offer expires October 23 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    so maybe, even if you are already a member, there is a slight delay? We will ask.

    The product shouldbe there, though apparently the actual files are missing. Check which Install State filter (along the bottom) you are using - All or Avaialble will show things you haven't installed. I generally fin it easiest to use the Install pane, which shows only and all uninstalled products.

    Ah... thank you Richard, but still nothing is found in Smart Content > wherever Installed, Available, Pending, yada yada ~

    The Vicky 9 Dark Elf Shape Add-On product appeared in the Smart Content > Available tab to install.  The sku is 105315 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,009
    edited October 12

    N-RArts said:

    TesseractSpace said:

    Blood-PawWerewolf said:

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

    I see no Vicky 9 Anime Dark Elf Shape Add-On in DIM...  it's being packed ?

    It's not available in DIM. According to the Filatoon page, it's supposed to be installed inside the Studio program from the Smart Content but I can't find it. I even used the Premier exclusive filter and sorted products by date.

    I checked the new Vicky 9 Character Bundle and the dark elf shape is listed as part of the product. Does that mean I have to purchase the bundle to get access to a temporary item tied to my subscription? The Fila Toon page at the bottom doesn't mention this.

    DAZ Connect somehow returns... 

    More accurately Connect Encrypted Content, in the worst possible form. Tied to so much other stuff that now they don't have to worry that their encrypted content won't sell so they don't have to worry about folks refusing to purchase it, which is what eventually killed off the last push for Connect Encrypted. 

    I was actually thinking about subscribing to Premier, in the hopes that Vicky 9's Toon bundle may have been included in the free bundle offer. But that line that I've marked in bold brought me down to Earth. Daz are really killing any love that I had for the program.

    it is free with the Premier bundle coupon.  This bundle Vicky 9 Character Bundle | Daz 3D

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  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,406

    I took the deal so I could get the discounts and finish my subscription faster. I'm not letting suscription content or plugins download or install. Though as I expected the content does not identify itself as premier only content, if I still used Connect and weren't paying attention, it'd be too easy to accidently download it. Someone may want to keep a thread like was done for encrypted content in the past, that way someone subscribing for discounts and not wanting the subscription locked content can avoid it.

  • Solar DreamerSolar Dreamer Posts: 54

    TesseractSpace said:

    I took the deal so I could get the discounts and finish my subscription faster. I'm not letting suscription content or plugins download or install. Though as I expected the content does not identify itself as premier only content, if I still used Connect and weren't paying attention, it'd be too easy to accidently download it. Someone may want to keep a thread like was done for encrypted content in the past, that way someone subscribing for discounts and not wanting the subscription locked content can avoid it.

    I'd actually be more inclined to join premier if it had an option to opt out of the subscription based content and only get the discounts. 

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,974

    y3kman said:

    crosswind said:

     

    Thanks. The product is now available for download. My suspicion was confirmed, though. The shape addon comes with a character preset that needs materials from the Toon Vicky 9 figure. Looks like it was supposed to be a permanent part of the bundle. It should've used the Base Toon G9 to avoid error reports from individuals who don't own Vicky.

    If my subscription expires and I decide to renew a few months later, will I still get access to previous Premier-exclusive items I added in my account?

    Which product ? You mean Dark Elf addon ? Where could you download it ?

    The Dark Elf shape addon is product 105315 and can be installed from Smart Content tab. To locate it, you can either click on the magnifying glass (Premier exclusive filter, key::dsp_exclusive) or sort your products by highest product ID.

    I totally forgot that I had already deleted Connect folder because Daz Connect had ever destroyed my custom metadata so I disabled it and never used it for years... Now I had to rebuid Connect folder, backup cms database, then check Update Metadata for a couple of seconds, then I got it ! Ha !

    Many thanks for the reminder !

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,974

    kpr said:

    crosswind said:

    SnowSultan said:

    Not quite, the upper arm still hangs straight down, but the forearm is bent 90 degrees, I guess more like how an old west cowboy would quickly draw a gun. Sorry for the vague description, when I get back to my PC, I will take a screenshot. Thanks.

    So I don't continue to derail this thread, I did try the Premier Geometry Editor tool briefly yesterday. It's not bad, and decent if you want to make comically large morphs (like long ears or big noses), but it doesn't seem useful for many of things we've asked for in the past, like micropressure 'skindentations' for clothing. It seems OK for making impacts, like punches or objects colliding with skin. I'd say it's worth using if you don't want to use Blender or if you don't have Zbrush.

    Okay, pls take your time. And I think you mean Geometry Sculptor tool ? I paid one month's Premier only for trying that tool. Well, though it's better than Mesh Grabber 3.0, but it's still limited... only with Draw / Smooth brush, still no Mask, Undo still doesn't work on the items with same Node Names... and Symmetry function has a big bug devil yada yada ~~

    @crosswind I was interested in MeshGraber 4 (I wasn't so interested that I immediately upgraded to Premier!)

    Could you tell me if you can "add" geometery to a model with the "Premier Hijacked Version" of MG4? Like add a pair of horns to a human head.

    You can sort of do this in Hexagon (and Daz Bridge), by extending existing polys, but you can't add new polys (if you do, the Daz Bridge won't import it - Maybe you can do the same in Blender, and import it with MorphLoaderPro?)

    If/when you've a little while, be great if you'd check on the functionality in Premier smiley

    Oh, no, you cannot "add geometry" but just "deform the geometry", as you said: extend existing polygons by grab (select) them first then drag or push. Now MG 4.0 (Geometry Sculptor) provides a Draw Brush, you can also deform the mesh with Draw Brush... but as usual, you still can do these on Base Mesh, i.e. no SubD manipulation.

    I'm also a Blender user, so yes,  most of the time it's easy to sculpt complex shape in Blender and import the shape back to DS as a morph by using MLP.

    Well, Mesh Grabber 4.0 is better than 3.0, you can check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr5uEgesPnc No big change.  But there's still limitations and some bugs. You can check this post:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8903241/#Comment_8903241

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  • gfdamron1gfdamron1 Posts: 281

    Somewhere in all the comments in various threads, I read something about having to log into DAZ in order to activate the features of Premier. There were also some suggestions for those of us who prefer not to be logged into DAZ while we're using DS. What is the best way to do this (or perhaps a link to the discussion)?

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