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DAZ is almost certainly not going to give the HD tools out to regular users because they do not want HD morphs using their technology being sold at other stores. You're probably more likely to get true soft body dynamics and fluid simulations in Studio before you get those.
Almost nothing... especially if you've been using Public Build ~~
I think the big plugin problem will come when Daz Studio 5 releases and plugins may have to be recompiled against a new SDK. Those working ManFriday plugins we own, that have been removed from the store, may not be updated, and so would become unusable in DS 5.
$228 a year. That's not possible for me.
Not sure I can justify the $120 for DAZ+ either. I'm been getting the yearly subs for $35-$45 (and apparently overpaying at that, according to some posts I've seen here).
It is sad because I'm pretty sure that any new toys (features) developed will not be available for the base version and locked behind a paywall.
There will probably even be two tiers of new features. The cool ones only being available for Premier and the so-so ones for DAZ+.
Or maybe DAZ+ won't get any new toys either. Gotta have that incentive to upgrade to Premier.
Well, it was a good run. At least I finally got the boxer I've been wanting for the DAZ Dog.
Right, that'll be definitely the problem... then if I still needed to use those plugins, I would have to be a subscriber of DS 5 ~~
It’s really bad to remove existing plugins and move them into subscriptions.
However, we still have plug-ins with similar functions created by other excellent artists to choose from.
I believe most people will subscribe to Premier for better tools, but they must be different from what the existing store provides.
Subscriptions will scare away non-experts and force people to use older versions and not buy anything new. Hopefully this won't be the case with DAZ. I've just learned how to use this great software and hope it lasts for a long time.
Or stick with DS4 and save a fortune.
Can you open Daz content in Blender? As a Linux user I'd be happy to give up Daz software (it's the only thing I have to boot into Windows for) but I thought very little Daz stuff worked in Blender unless you first combined and exported it as fixed characters and scenes (too much hassle for me).
Fortunately we have Diffeomorphic Daz Importer... yes almost 95%+ Daz Assets can be imported into Blender ~~
Then, I just realized why there was no update to official Daz Bridges... 'cause the updated versions "had to be" embedded into 4.23 + new tier of premier.
Is it really that complicated for DAZ to provide an official explanation of what the Premier version includes and what the free version includes? I'm not even asking for a video, just a simple article or FAQ. It's truly unbelievable! It seems like DAZ enjoys having forum threads with dozens of pages of people trying to guess, instead of issuing a simple statement and making it clear.
According to the blog post, it's supposed to be part of the non Premier version of Daz Studio but I can't check it myself, because the Mac version has a bug with plugins and I'll wait before installing it, wether it's installing the public release or the public beta.
https://www.daz3d.com/blog/daz-studio-premier-and-daz-studio-4-23-updates
Many practical new features are released for free. This is the happiest thing today. DAZ really needs to put this article on the homepage of the website.
My only concern is plugins owned will be negated by any future updates. I think I own one ManFriday product, the 'Seamstress'. Now if that went premium and no further updates got added to normal plugin and it stopped working in future updates, that kinda scenario, then I'm pissed.
This Premium could work for Daz3D if they actually really developed the software to another level. For me a better realtime renderer, nodal shader system, improved cloth/hair and other physics, and improved animation toolset would make the proposition much more appealing, rather than more cheapness from the store.
I really can't overly complain too much, this last PA sale they literally gave away stuff almost for free type prices, check out my discount on a recent purchase.
Subtotal $4317.00
Discount -$4117.00
Grand Total $200.00
I wasn't expecting "Hey, this is on hold, because Daz is going to buy Mesh Grabber!". I was expecting any communication along the lines of, "I know this is taking longer than you all thought. I apologize, but I won't have any other news for a while. I'll update as soon as I can." instead of a complete radio silence for months.
Good move. I wish I was in a position to order a new SSD to do the same... On the other hand, I've been incentivized by Daz to curb my spending here, so I might just save up enough this way. ;)
There is a whole page about Daz Studio Premier. It's a bit hidden though. If you click Memberships in the top navigation there is a nice table with the difference in each membership. At the top of that table under Daz Premier there is a link to Daz Studio Premier page. On that page is both an explanation and a video that shows exactly what plugins are in the Premier version. The free and the premier version are the exact same program. It's just the extra plugins described on that page that are incorporated in the premier version.
How do you buy the Permire membership? I only get a run around
However, according to the DAZ Premier page, it's part of the subscription, under "enhanced export": https://www.daz3d.com/daz-premier
Would be great to have some clarity from DAZ on this what exactly is / isn't changing for export on free vs. premier.
I cannot justify $20 a month to rent plugins/software that I will never own & content I’m not interested in…I have exactly 1 G9 pro bundle. The so-called benefits just don’t equal the total cost for me.
I have been a DAZ+ member for a long time…but I think it’s time for us to part ways. I will be dropping my DAZ+ when my subscription ends (I will use up the 2 months free Premiere that will run through the end of the year before I drop it). Maybe I'll get one last discounted gift card...maybe not. I still have quite a bit of store credit yet to use.
I have more than enough content to last me a lifetime...seems now is a good time to discover just what I have. Who knows, maybe I’ll join up for a month or two…probably during the PA sale…pick up whatever bargains/wishlist items I can find & then go away until the next year's PA sale (maybe I can see how Santa feels...just make one yearly journey).
In the end, it’s DAZ & all the PAs that lose out…at least from me as there will be a lot less impulse buying. Between losing out on Mesh Grabber 4 & this whole subscription fiasco, it’s left a really bad impression & it's time for me to let my money do the talking.
So thank you, DAZ, for finally giving me a kick in the backside & pushing me to get my spending under control. I'm kind of curious & excited to see what I can do with the money I'll be saving.
I think you're right Elor ! And after checking the version / functions of the Daz to xxx Bridges, there seemd to be nothing changed !
I have also issues when I want subscribe to DAZ Premier.
Location: Germany. It doenst work with Paypal and when I fill my MasterCard details it is also loading all time. Since 10 minutes :(
Same here. Try to purchase the Premier but it just cycles round with no purchase page.
LOL, way to lock in costs. I, managed to pay off the old debt I ran up on DAZ.
i would only subscribe to Premier if they drop the price a bit. $18 USD is a lot. plus i would more likely pay a perpetual license over just renting stuff.
Try logging in again.
You appear to be a + member still, there is an issue with the reporting on the account page that has confused a lot of people.
or use both as suits your needs.