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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,965
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    [Ignore mode OFF]

    The common concept of the "Butterfly Effect" seems to be about figurative butterflies flapping wings eventually causing massive effects elsewhere.  However, the true meaning of the butterfly effect comes from a classic instability graph that showed a chaotic algorithm to form two lobes of possible solution paths and the diagram on paper looked like butterfly wings.  It had nothing to do with figurative butterflies flapping their wings in the jungle.  But since the mathematics behind the derivation of the chaotic graph results is too abstract for the non-scientifically minded, the mind of the common man picked up on the picture of the figurative butterfly thing and there was no stopping its spread.  But admittedly it's not a bad parable as long as you don't stretch it too far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

    [Ignore mode ON]

    Yes, I was arguing against the common notion of the concept, which seems to ignore the momemtum of a tornado versus the momentum of the air a butterfly's wings can move.  It is true as the article says that "you could not remove a single grain of sand from its place without thereby ... changing something throughout all parts of the immeasurable whole".   But which effect a particular action has on the whole depends on a number of factors (including some which are not commonly recognized by mainstream science, which is why I'm sceptical to most of it's theories).  

    But I didn't intend to start a scentific discussion, just stated my opinion in a slightly sarcastic remark, and will leave it at that...

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,965
    Sven Dullah said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    ...but but...I need to believe in SOMETHINGcrying

    Why do you believe that? cheeky

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,965
    edited September 2019
    SadKitty_Carrara said:
    Richard Haseltine said:

    We won't be able to ignore it if this thread turns to poitics and so on.

    so quantum physics is against the TOS?

    Yes, quantum physics would rather see the TOS as dead as Schrödingers cat. 

    Post edited by Taoz on
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,965
    edited September 2019
    Sven Dullah said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:
    Richard Haseltine said:

    We won't be able to ignore it if this thread turns to poitics and so on.

    so quantum physics is against the TOS?

    No, but Schrödinger's cat is...unless you slap some clothes on her.

    Well OK...


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  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    Taoz said:
    Sven Dullah said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:
    Richard Haseltine said:

    We won't be able to ignore it if this thread turns to poitics and so on.

    so quantum physics is against the TOS?

    No, but Schrödinger's cat is...unless you slap some clothes on her.

    Well OK...

     

    LOL

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,581
    Taoz said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    [Ignore mode OFF]

    The common concept of the "Butterfly Effect" seems to be about figurative butterflies flapping wings eventually causing massive effects elsewhere.  However, the true meaning of the butterfly effect comes from a classic instability graph that showed a chaotic algorithm to form two lobes of possible solution paths and the diagram on paper looked like butterfly wings.  It had nothing to do with figurative butterflies flapping their wings in the jungle.  But since the mathematics behind the derivation of the chaotic graph results is too abstract for the non-scientifically minded, the mind of the common man picked up on the picture of the figurative butterfly thing and there was no stopping its spread.  But admittedly it's not a bad parable as long as you don't stretch it too far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

    [Ignore mode ON]

    Yes, I was arguing against the common notion of the concept, which seems to ignore the momemtum of a tornado versus the momentum of the air a butterfly's wings can move.  It is true as the article says that "you could not remove a single grain of sand from its place without thereby ... changing something throughout all parts of the immeasurable whole".   But which effect a particular action has on the whole depends on a number of factors (including some which are not commonly recognized by mainstream science, which is why I'm sceptical to most of it's theories).  

    But I didn't intend to start a scentific discussion, just stated my opinion in a slightly sarcastic remark, and will leave it at that...

    Nor did I.  In an equally teasing way I just seized on an opportunity to educate and throw water on a rampant misconception.  I will join you in leaving it at that...

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    [Ignore mode OFF]

    The common concept of the "Butterfly Effect" seems to be about figurative butterflies flapping wings eventually causing massive effects elsewhere.  However, the true meaning of the butterfly effect comes from a classic instability graph that showed a chaotic algorithm to form two lobes of possible solution paths and the diagram on paper looked like butterfly wings.  It had nothing to do with figurative butterflies flapping their wings in the jungle.  But since the mathematics behind the derivation of the chaotic graph results is too abstract for the non-scientifically minded, the mind of the common man picked up on the picture of the figurative butterfly thing and there was no stopping its spread.  But admittedly it's not a bad parable as long as you don't stretch it too far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

    [Ignore mode ON]

    Yes, I was arguing against the common notion of the concept, which seems to ignore the momemtum of a tornado versus the momentum of the air a butterfly's wings can move.  It is true as the article says that "you could not remove a single grain of sand from its place without thereby ... changing something throughout all parts of the immeasurable whole".   But which effect a particular action has on the whole depends on a number of factors (including some which are not commonly recognized by mainstream science, which is why I'm sceptical to most of it's theories).  

    But I didn't intend to start a scentific discussion, just stated my opinion in a slightly sarcastic remark, and will leave it at that...

    Nor did I.  In an equally teasing way I just seized on an opportunity to educate and throw water on a rampant misconception.  I will join you in leaving it at that...

    So you're leaving me alone in here with this...thing?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,116
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    [Ignore mode OFF]

    The common concept of the "Butterfly Effect" seems to be about figurative butterflies flapping wings eventually causing massive effects elsewhere.  However, the true meaning of the butterfly effect comes from a classic instability graph that showed a chaotic algorithm to form two lobes of possible solution paths and the diagram on paper looked like butterfly wings.  It had nothing to do with figurative butterflies flapping their wings in the jungle.  But since the mathematics behind the derivation of the chaotic graph results is too abstract for the non-scientifically minded, the mind of the common man picked up on the picture of the figurative butterfly thing and there was no stopping its spread.  But admittedly it's not a bad parable as long as you don't stretch it too far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

    [Ignore mode ON]

    ....so that's what dual lobe shaders in Daz are all about.  I was wondering about that.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,116
    Sven Dullah said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    ...but but...I need to believe in SOMETHINGcrying

    ...the Power of Cheese?

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,965
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    [Ignore mode OFF]

    The common concept of the "Butterfly Effect" seems to be about figurative butterflies flapping wings eventually causing massive effects elsewhere.  However, the true meaning of the butterfly effect comes from a classic instability graph that showed a chaotic algorithm to form two lobes of possible solution paths and the diagram on paper looked like butterfly wings.  It had nothing to do with figurative butterflies flapping their wings in the jungle.  But since the mathematics behind the derivation of the chaotic graph results is too abstract for the non-scientifically minded, the mind of the common man picked up on the picture of the figurative butterfly thing and there was no stopping its spread.  But admittedly it's not a bad parable as long as you don't stretch it too far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

    [Ignore mode ON]

    Yes, I was arguing against the common notion of the concept, which seems to ignore the momemtum of a tornado versus the momentum of the air a butterfly's wings can move.  It is true as the article says that "you could not remove a single grain of sand from its place without thereby ... changing something throughout all parts of the immeasurable whole".   But which effect a particular action has on the whole depends on a number of factors (including some which are not commonly recognized by mainstream science, which is why I'm sceptical to most of it's theories).  

    But I didn't intend to start a scentific discussion, just stated my opinion in a slightly sarcastic remark, and will leave it at that...

    Nor did I.  In an equally teasing way I just seized on an opportunity to educate and throw water on a rampant misconception.  I will join you in leaving it at that...

    I will however say that I realized that my remark: "which seems to ignore the momemtum of a tornado versus the momentum of the air a butterfly's wings can move" was a really bad and misleading attempt to explain what I really mean.  But I don't think this is the right place to elaborate further on this.  

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,965
    kyoto kid said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    [Ignore mode OFF]

    The common concept of the "Butterfly Effect" seems to be about figurative butterflies flapping wings eventually causing massive effects elsewhere.  However, the true meaning of the butterfly effect comes from a classic instability graph that showed a chaotic algorithm to form two lobes of possible solution paths and the diagram on paper looked like butterfly wings.  It had nothing to do with figurative butterflies flapping their wings in the jungle.  But since the mathematics behind the derivation of the chaotic graph results is too abstract for the non-scientifically minded, the mind of the common man picked up on the picture of the figurative butterfly thing and there was no stopping its spread.  But admittedly it's not a bad parable as long as you don't stretch it too far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

    [Ignore mode ON]

    ....so that's what dual lobe shaders in Daz are all about.  I was wondering about that.

    Well if you want your butterfly's wings to shine the dual lobe shaders are the way to go. 

    Or did you post in the wrong thread?  I just saw another thread about exactly this.

  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388
    kyoto kid said:
    Sven Dullah said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    ...but but...I need to believe in SOMETHINGcrying

    ...the Power of Cheese?

    Music through cheeze has a very blues sound.

    I didn't say that, an expert did.  And no, she did not mean "philosophically", or "metaphorically".  She meant it literally! 

    If you want to see (hear?) more craziness, google her name and "pickle filter".  wink

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,116

    ...cheesy.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,581
    kyoto kid said:
    Sven Dullah said:
    Taoz said:
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Cloudflare and the lava lamps 

    quantum physics and Schrodingers cat

    a butterfly flaps its wings

    Well the butterfly thing is nonsense, quantum theory is flawed, and Schrödingers cat is neither dead or alive.

    ...but but...I need to believe in SOMETHINGcrying

    ...the Power of Cheese?

    I would, but somebody stole my cheese.sad

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    Music through cheese, I was thinking something completely different (but[t] similar to music through beans).

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,116

    ...beans, beans the musical fruit
    the more you eat
    the more you toot
    the more you toot
    the better you feel
    so let's have beans at every meal...

     

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,395

    Please ignore me while i pretend to have a tablet.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,320

    I need to ignore all the new stuff no matter how pretty it looks

    I can at least render my V4's and genesis 1's

    even in DAZ studio with Dforce and iray yes

    everything now is just over the top because people with better rigs than mine demand it and they obviously have the money to buy it too

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,320
    edited September 2019

    Sadly this won't stop me giving DAZ money ......

    ....... there is so much nice legacy and Genesis 1&2 stuff I don't own yet ......angry

     

     

    "......and a new Poser11pro install too

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,965

    So far over 7.7 billion people on this planet have ignored this thread. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,320

    help me ignore Arki's awesome new wings

    I want them

    but I cannot render animations now in DAZ studio

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,320

    But I bought them

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,116
    Taoz said:

    So far over 7.7 billion people on this planet have ignored this thread. 

    ...but apparently I'm not one it chooses to ignore.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,395
    Taoz said:

    So far over 7.7 billion people on this planet have ignored this thread. 

    I have to go back ignoring them if my dad could have his way.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,395

    I am trying to ignore my new fitness tracker saying I have been inactive too long.  I think that is what it is complaining about.  I probably need to do my chore.  I am supposed to do it twice a day but I have not done it since yesterday morning.  I remembered too late last night and lost track of time this morning and had to go out before I got to it.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,320

    Some psychological cattle prodding for all those with filters active

    I have no filter myself so not so much news to me devil

    I just needed to dodge getting written warnings or arrested

     

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    I'm just wondering why the Universe keeps ignoring us all, it keeps expanding for ever and ever, getting colder and colder...and bigger..no wait...I mentioned that already...anyways, it keeps on keeping on.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,320

    My bones won't let me ignore them

    I swear my skeleton wants to escape 

    getting an Xray later today but doubt it will reveal much

    and doubt anything I can do either

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,320

    Damn accidentally rang a phone number trying to find a way to block it on my phone

    this phone is useless

    missing that feature by looks

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,064
    SadKitty_Carrara said:

    Damn accidentally rang a phone number trying to find a way to block it on my phone

    this phone is useless

    missing that feature by looks

    I know exactly what you mean... why no obvious "block caller" option?... You have to go into a stupid unintuitive options menu that is the complete opposite of what it should look like.
    Even better if you get uninvited spam in your calendar... no way to block the spammer without letting them know it's a live account... and no more "Block Third Party Cookies" option either...

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