UltraScenery - new territory [Commercial]
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That is great to hear! Thanks for letting me know. You are now at least the second person that has TAO working by using DIM instead of Daz Connect, so I think that will work for other people, too.
UltraScatterPro works great with UltraScenery terrain, and I imagine UltraScatter does, too. You can even use the UltraScenery Feature masks (in your runtime directory) with UltraScatterPro as distribution maps, to control where UltraScatter places instances.
Good idea. We'll get it working on C first. I'm going to write some step by step instructions to get those Daz Connect things uninstalled. I'll stick with it until I have no more ideas to help. I'm pretty sure we can get this all straightened out. I need to capture some screenshots and then I'll post again.
Thanks and great to know. I have not used UltraScatter for ages, and has put all of my attention to figure out UltraScenery, instead.
barbult's longwinded instructions for fixing double installation problems
Quick summary of the problem:
My recommendation:
To the best of my ability, I have documented the steps necessary to remove a product from Daz Connect and reinstall it with DIM so that it works properly in Daz Studio. This example focuses on the Tangy Apple Orchard UltraScenery products that some people are having trouble with. The technique is valid for other products as well, or course.
1) Open Daz Studio and go to the Smart Content tab. If you don't already have the Smart Content pane in your layout, you can add it to your layout from the Window/Panes (Tabs) menu. I have a custom layout with Smart Content on the right of the viewport. Your layout might look a little different.
2) Select the Products tab in the Smart Content pane. Uncheck Filter by Context and select the All Products category and the Installed tab.
3) Enter Tangy in the Smart Content search box. (Be sure you are on the Products tab, not the Files tab in Smart Content.) Daz Studio will filter products to show you only the ones with Tangy in the name. I only own two, which happen to be the two we want to fix.
4) So, assuming that you have identified that you do have the product installed with Daz Connect, right click on one of the product thumbnails and select Uninstall from the popup choices. Repeat this for the next product you want to uninstall. (You can also select multiple products then right click and uninstall them all at once.)
5) After both products have been uninstalled, their thumbnails will turn gray (no longer in color). Since they are now available to be installed with Daz Connect again, they once again have the broken circle and down arrow icon in the upper right corner of the thumbnail. Unfortunately, this display gives us no clue about whether the product was installed with DIM, too.
6) This step is optional: Right click on the All Product line in Smart Content and select Refresh from the popup choices. After the display refreshes, both Tangy products disappeared from the product list. This indicates that they are no longer installed. Daz Studio doesn't seem to know that these products had been installed with DIM. Next we need to fix that problem.
7) Now we are going to reinstall the product with DIM so Daz Studio realizes that they are there again.
8) Now go back to Daz Studio and open Smart Content again.
9) People sometimes get in trouble, because they see the broken circle with down arrow and think they need to do someting finish installing their product. That is incorrect. Please do NOT right click on these thumbnails and select Install. That will install the product with Daz Connect again and you are right back to double installation and step 1.
If your product still does not work after performing steps 1-8, the problem is probably that your Daz Studio Content Directory Manager is not looking in the place that DIM installed the files. That is a different issue. Ask for help in the forum or ask Customer Service, don't shoot yourself in the foot by installing with Daz Connect again.
@daveso, the post above should help you get those Tangy Apple Orchard products out of Daz Connect and working. Please let me know how it goes.
Well, now I know how my installation got screwed up. I always wondered why the products had the down arrow and circle after I've already installed them with DIM, so I've been going in, right clicking the icons, and doing the listed install. That means that most if not all of the current products in my installation of DS were installed with DIM but then with DAZ CONNECT .... I had no idea that down arrow thing in the right corner was for DAZ Connect installation.
I will need to go in and uninstall pretty much everything that does not have that arrow and redo them in DIM. Luckily I only have about 300 items installed compared to my old installation where there were more than 3000.
aFTER THIS, WELL, i WILL START WITH ALL THE ULTRASCENERY PRODUCTS 1ST ..THEN WE WILL KNOW IF THEY ARE WORKING RIGHT AWAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS GUIDE AND ALL THE HELP YOU HAVE GIVEN, NOT JUST ME, BUT EVERYONE.
LET THERE BE APPLE TREES !!!
now to get the rest of my products uninstalled from Connect and reinstalled by DIM ... THANKS AGAIN BARBULT
You did it!
@barbult .. now that I've been uninstalling those products installed twice ..DIM and Connect, once I uninstall the connect products, do the files go away from where they were? Will I then have 1 installation.?
Yes, those files in your Daz Connect directory (in that strange subdirectory of your CMS directory on drive D) will be deleted. Empty folders will be left behind, if I recall correctly. You will have only one installation of each product and it will be in the directory specified in DIM. Right now you have that set to the default location on the C drive.
Our next task will be to move your DIM content library off of C drive and onto another drive with more space. I've never done this, but I have seen Richard Haseltine post messages about how to do that. It is easy. I just need to track down his instructions again so I don't go from a possibly faulty memory.That is a task for another day.
yes, another day. I'm in process of uninstalling all the Connect stuff and reinstalling via DIM. will take some time. then I need to render some tangy apples .
@Sevrin I can reproduce your problem with the TAO trees having strange looking leaves in some places. They look kind of gray and half transparent or something. I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out. I believe the problem is related to the opacity mask. Something strange is happening in Iray with opacity masks. Try just deleting the opacity mask from the two leaf surfaces of the tao_Chestnut1 and tao_Chestnut2 props in the Chestnuts Layer. You will lose a minute amount of leaf edge definition, but in a large UltraScene, you won't even notice. The leaves are modeled, so you won't end up with just big rectangles.
I don't have the volume prop that you used in your other test. I'll have to search my content and see if I have one I can try.
UltraScenery TAO 2 Crossing 2 Clear Stream as built by UltraScenery
UltraScenery TAO 2 Crossing 2 Clear Stream with TAO Chestnut Leaves Cutout Opacity Map Deleted
Keep an eye on your C drive so it doesn't get overly full while you do this. Remember that the ones you are deleting from Daz Connect are getting removed from D, not C, according to your configuration. If you are just reinstalling ones that are already installed with DIM, C should not get any fuller that it is. You should be OK.
Nothing fancy like custom masks or anything, just some good ol' prehistoric fun with Herschel Hoffmeyer's Tyrannosaurus Rex 2 Berserker lurking about in an UltraScenery Environment. US STILL just utterly amazes me on a regular basis!
Nice dinos! That looks like Mossy Hollow. It is a good choice of ecology and looks prehistoric in your renders.
One thing to try, maybe, is AM's mesozoic badlands flora used in ultrascenery (using alienator or similar)
@daveso, well, I searched around for instructions on moving your Daz stuff from C drive to another hard drive. I found a lot different opinions on how to do that. There are multiple levels of moving stuff, too. Move just your DIM content, also move your DIM downloads and manifests, also move your CMS database. You can move just one or multiple of these things, depending on how much C drive space they use and how much you need to recover. So, things aren't as straightforward as I thought they would be.
Even if you choose to move only your DIM content, there are at least three steps involved. 1) physically copy the content folder to a new location, 2) Configure Daz Studio to look for content in the new location, and 3) reconfigure DIM to install things, including future updates, to that new location. The DIM reconfiguration steps depend on whether you have kept all your old download zip files and manifest files or deleted them.
Here are a couple links to fairly recent instructions I found in the forum, but there are many more. The phatmartino post is extremely detailed and looks pretty intimidating. Richard Haseltine's instructions are terse, and no doubt accurate, but lack detailed instructions on how to accomplish the stated goals.
How do you want to proceed?
I don't own that one, so I never even thought about that. You are right, Will, I bet Alienator or Alienator Pro would work well for that!
I'll look at the instructions given. I finished uninstalling Connect products and unistalled/reinstalled everything via DIM. It was interesting how many products I had installed with Connect and not DIM at all. Probably half. My C drive is now 65% full, so it will be good to move them. I'll check all the files to see what's being used.
One other thing I noted, I have several products that do not have an uninstall command ... various thing not from any one particular vendor. That's sort of interesting.
Should we take this from her to PM or maybe a new thread to not clog up this Ultrascenery topic?
I was thinking the same. We are out of UltraScenery/TAO territory now. Time to move to PM. The hard thing about PM is that you can''t edit a message and you can't directly upload images. We'll try. PM me when you are ready.
Just wondered how many characters one can render with UltraScenery, but lost interest already with 9 figures.
Does Daz Iray support true volumetrics now? I've seen this happen before when I was beta testing Vue 4 waaaay back in the day. Same issue - clash between volumetrics and transparency/alpha maps.
You will wonder how you manged before with renders taking seconds to hours instead of hours to days, I know I did when I went from CPU only to my RTX 2060 in this Laptop :)
So sorry if this has been asked before, but will there be a winter / snow edition of UltraScenery in the foreseeable future? I would soooo love to have that!
That's a wonderful friend,good karma for all the help you've been giving
I were recently involved in helping my colleague with the tests of his new computer.
He has allowed me to run a test with Daz Studio, so I have prepared a quick test scene with UltraScenery
on my own SSD disk with Windows and DazStudio already installed and rendered it in 8K resolution.
It was the first 8K render ever for me and the details are amazing even while my scene is not.
Below is a 4K only (8K jpeg take almost 12 MB and is too big for the forum) render of the scene with more pokethrougs,
because I have spotted them later.
I am amazed, how well UltraScenery scale up and keep up with the details even with the higher resolution renders.
That is great, Barbult. You make so much good for Daz community... just amazing.