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Diomede

Second test - Speed Boat with Iray materials

 https://www.daz3d.com/speed-boat

Default Carrara Load with Iray Shaders but without PBR Shaders Shaders

PBR Plugin with Iray Shaders

 

Dartanbeck

I think all of Polish products are Iray. I could be mistaken. Looks great! Boat too (except the boat needs water!)!

Bunyip02

Diomede said:

Second test - Speed Boat with Iray materials

 https://www.daz3d.com/speed-boat

Default Carrara Load with Iray Shaders but without PBR Shaders Shaders

PBR Plugin with Iray Shaders

 

Very nice !!

Mistara

are there any shader presets for this to get started?

a simple clay shader?

seeing some resources at renderman  https://renderman.pixar.com/community_resources

Thanks

or did i understand backwards?
we can render our carrara scenes in renderman?
or it brings renderman into carrara renders?

is it feasible for animations?

does it need high end graphic card?

thanks

 

 

 

3drendero

Some info here https://carraracafe.com/new-carrara-plug-in-pbrlightingmodel/

Mistara

Thanks !

Mistara

anyone tried this plug in to make a believable dragon skin??

Diomede

Mystarra said:

anyone tried this plug in to make a believable dragon skin??

I dragged the DUF file to the PBR box for this dragon, but I'm not sure I did it correctly.  Wasn't really going for believable skin.  Just wanted enough contrast with the vegetation to be visible.

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/5238001/#Comment_5238001

Philemo_Carrara

Mystarra said:

anyone tried this plug in to make a believable dragon skin??

 

No, but you can try to import this https://3dtextures.me/2019/07/24/dragon-scales-001/

Or https://3dtextures.me/2019/01/25/lizard-skin-001/

Dartanbeck

Philemo_Carrara said:

Mystarra said:

anyone tried this plug in to make a believable dragon skin??

 

No, but you can try to import this https://3dtextures.me/2019/07/24/dragon-scales-001/

Or https://3dtextures.me/2019/01/25/lizard-skin-001/

...and another option:

1. Load into Carrara something that you have PBR files for and load them using Philemo's plugin. Adjust one of the resulting shaders to your liking and then save it to your browser as a sort of preset.
2. Now load the dragon into a new scene and separately load in that shader you've saved. Edit > Consolidate Duplicate Shaders
3. Now open one of the Dragon's shaders and copy the color texture map
4. Drag the shader preset you've made earlier onto the Top level of this shader and paste the color map into the color channel, replacing the albedo or color map that was saved in there. 
5. Hover over the file name of the color map to get the location of it, then load the remaining appropriate maps everywhere maps exist in this preset. 

chickenman

if you have shader map 4 you could take the map in and make PBR maps then save them out.

Use the PBR import to auto matically adjust them or you can manually map them all.

I am trying to do this for a product I found on Share CG from years ago called Hesco Bastion ( used by lots of militaries for making defenses)

It is a little time consuming but can work really well.

Mistara

Philemo_Carrara said:

My test sequence starts an organic shape and a flat one in Carrara content 3 points lights preset (a difficult one for a lighting model).

The four textures have been applied "as-is" (no tweaking)

The textures have been downloaded from 3 sites:

• Textures.com
• FreePBR.com
• 3d-wolf.com

 

 

Thanks.  are sample renders using the hdr dome plug in also?

Bunyip02

Philemo_Carrara said:

Mystarra said:

anyone tried this plug in to make a believable dragon skin??

 

No, but you can try to import this https://3dtextures.me/2019/07/24/dragon-scales-001/

Or https://3dtextures.me/2019/01/25/lizard-skin-001/

Texture maps added manually to head, body, & wing-arms.

 

Mistara

thanks.  

lovely cloud poofs too

Mistara

Philemo_Carrara said:

I'm not looking for a technical explanation.  I just want to know how I would use it in a Carrara workflow.  That's my frame of reference.

And is it for Carrara, or Octane?

It's for Carrara.

It's fully integrated in Carrara:

On your multi-channel shader, choose a PBR lighting model:

It will create a new level with your multi channel as the first shader :

Usually, PBR texture sets come with at least 4 files:

• Albedo (or base color)
• Glossiness or roughness map
• normal map
• ambient occlusion map

Albedo

Load in color channel of your multi channel shader

Specular

PBR model accepts value ranging usually from 15% to 40% depending on the material IOR.

20% is usually a good start. Goes into the Highlight slot

Glossiness/roughness map

It goes into shininess slot.

Glossiness and roughness map are two side of the same notion. a Roughess map has value 0 for very smooth and 1 for very rough. A glossiness map is just the opposite (0 for rough, 1 for smooth). So, if you have a roughness map, hust tick the "invert color" tick box in the texture map

Ambient occlusion

In the ambient occlusion slot of the lighting model

And that's all for the basis.

 

thank you.  the new iray pbr shaders are including roughness maps. 

chickenman

@Philemo_Carrara

Would you be interested in trying to create a bridge from Carrara to Filament to provide us this new PBR render engine?

Now tht DAZ is supporting Filament in Studio and the fact that it it is free found here https://google.github.io/filament/

Then we would be able to utilize any of the filiment shaders with out any hassles..

Mistara

there is 2 subsurface channels now.  i put the map in both? not sure what to do?

Mistara

M81 Maps pbr plugin

glass shader on cornea
put a metal shader on pupil
dunno how to make moist lips

Mistara

another attempt for moist lips.  

WendyLuvsCatz

chickenman said:

@Philemo_Carrara

Would you be interested in trying to create a bridge from Carrara to Filament to provide us this new PBR render engine?

Now tht DAZ is supporting Filament in Studio and the fact that it it is free found here https://google.github.io/filament/

Then we would be able to utilize any of the filiment shaders with out any hassles..

IMO this is pointless.

Carrara native engine runs absolue rings around Filament which handles transmaps and shadows so badly.

I use Filament a lot in DAZ studio because it is better than OpenGL which I used to use a lot because the alternatives IE iray and 3Delight are so incredibly slow and resource demanding on my hardware 

but

given the option I prefer Carrara native any day

that said for speed and PBR Octane is my choice but obviously not affordable to everyone (including me if I didn't already own it)

now if one was looking at integrating Cycles and Eevee I would say please go for it!

adding I can render Carrara at less than one frame a second if transmapping and raytraced shadows is totally avoided, my only problem is my CPU gets too hot!

WendyLuvsCatz

and I cannot emphasis this enough

emitters, you want the look Anything Glows is your friend. its a bit of work setting it up as every light needs the exact unique model name in the object space so you need to do a lot of renaming of models

but

if you are prepared you can have a hundred lights using the glow surfaces of models and no other 

ights beautifully illuminating your scene faster than actual lights, avoid facet though as that while accurate is incredibly slow, vertex good and bouding box does for any objects where the whole thing is an emitter, if yoo can forgo raytraced shadows its as fast as unlit ambient lighting

Mistara

is there a pbr plugin for our Mac friends?

i'se passing the word along about the plugin.  my eyes too poor barely see the time savers list.  cant tell if one is for mac.

BrianP21361

Yes. /PBRLighting_OSX64.zip

Mistara

thank you!

Philemo_Carrara

I share Wendy's opinion.

So, no, I have no plan for implementing Filament as a renderer in Carrara. Being able to import Filament PBR shaders in Carrara is another matter.

In any case, I'm not entirely happy with the current import process, so a new version of the PBR plugin is planned.

WendyLuvsCatz said:

chickenman said:

@Philemo_Carrara

Would you be interested in trying to create a bridge from Carrara to Filament to provide us this new PBR render engine?

Now tht DAZ is supporting Filament in Studio and the fact that it it is free found here https://google.github.io/filament/

Then we would be able to utilize any of the filiment shaders with out any hassles..

IMO this is pointless.

Carrara native engine runs absolue rings around Filament which handles transmaps and shadows so badly.

I use Filament a lot in DAZ studio because it is better than OpenGL which I used to use a lot because the alternatives IE iray and 3Delight are so incredibly slow and resource demanding on my hardware 

but

given the option I prefer Carrara native any day

that said for speed and PBR Octane is my choice but obviously not affordable to everyone (including me if I didn't already own it)

now if one was looking at integrating Cycles and Eevee I would say please go for it!

adding I can render Carrara at less than one frame a second if transmapping and raytraced shadows is totally avoided, my only problem is my CPU gets too hot!

Philemo_Carrara

Mystiarra said:

there is 2 subsurface channels now.  i put the map in both? not sure what to do?

No, one is for the intesity of the effect and the other is got the color. So, the greyscale one goes in the intesity (set about 15% if there is none) and the color one in the color (set andark red if there is none).

Philemo_Carrara

Mystiarra said:

another attempt for moist lips.  

You could try to use the clearcoat component (set both value to 100%)

chickenman

Philemo_Carrara said:

I share Wendy's opinion.

So, no, I have no plan for implementing Filament as a renderer in Carrara. Being able to import Filament PBR shaders in Carrara is another matter.

In any case, I'm not entirely happy with the current import process, so a new version of the PBR plugin is planned.

WendyLuvsCatz said:

chickenman said:

@Philemo_Carrara

Would you be interested in trying to create a bridge from Carrara to Filament to provide us this new PBR render engine?

Now tht DAZ is supporting Filament in Studio and the fact that it it is free found here https://google.github.io/filament/

Then we would be able to utilize any of the filiment shaders with out any hassles..

IMO this is pointless.

Carrara native engine runs absolue rings around Filament which handles transmaps and shadows so badly.

I use Filament a lot in DAZ studio because it is better than OpenGL which I used to use a lot because the alternatives IE iray and 3Delight are so incredibly slow and resource demanding on my hardware 

but

given the option I prefer Carrara native any day

that said for speed and PBR Octane is my choice but obviously not affordable to everyone (including me if I didn't already own it)

now if one was looking at integrating Cycles and Eevee I would say please go for it!

adding I can render Carrara at less than one frame a second if transmapping and raytraced shadows is totally avoided, my only problem is my CPU gets too hot!

Thank you for your thoughts, I was looking more towards the shaders anyway as they are starting to make thier way into the store.

Mistara

i succumed to curiosity and ordered poser 11
will be interesting to see how the cycles/superfly shaders translate to carrara.  

i tried copy/pasting the albedo texture map to other channel,
thinking 'open' would bring me directly to the folder to load another map.
it doesn't.

wouldve expected the 8.1 maps to be under the 8.1 textures folder.  isn't.  is under the 8.0 folder.
 

Mistara

Philemo_Carrara said:

My test sequence starts an organic shape and a flat one in Carrara content 3 points lights preset (a difficult one for a lighting model).

The four textures have been applied "as-is" (no tweaking)

The textures have been downloaded from 3 sites:

• Textures.com
• FreePBR.com
• 3d-wolf.com

 

thanks for these resource links!