Show Us Your Bryce Renders! Part 2

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  • HoroHoro Posts: 10,630
    edited December 1969

    A few times now I've had a look at saving the renders as .hdr files.

    Here is a comparison of the file saved as .hdr and .tiff saves.
    Both were then taken into Photoshop and colour curves and saturation levels altered and the .hdr was converted down to 8 bit using the hdri options in photoshop.

    Top pic; HDR file
    Bottom pic: TIFF file


    Great experiment. I find the HDRI converted has more saturated colours and I like it more.
  • Roland4Roland4 Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Entrance to hell : The entrance

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I dread to think what is hiding behind that entrance.

  • HoroHoro Posts: 10,630
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    I dread to think what is hiding behind that entrance.

    Could be a red light establishment. We should not always think of the worst. :)
  • Roland4Roland4 Posts: 0
    edited November 2012

    chohole said:
    I dread to think what is hiding behind that entrance.

    The fire of hell ? Another world? The Earth's Core ?

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  • pumecopumeco Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Reminds me of one of my Peasant Girl caves!

  • RarethRareth Posts: 1,462
    edited December 1969

    because I got bored at work a couple of abstracts

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  • eireann.sgeireann.sg Posts: 0
    edited November 2012

    Horo said:
    chohole said:
    I dread to think what is hiding behind that entrance.

    Could be a red light establishment. We should not always think of the worst. :)Probably the entrance to the Platzspitz park. Thats some kind of a lawless zone. LMAO :)The white ballz rendered faster than the coloured ones although the lighting settings for the white ones was more complicated.
    Guess I am comparing blue fin tuna to red herring :)
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  • eireann.sgeireann.sg Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Rareth said:
    because I got bored at work a couple of abstracts

    Very nice abstracts :)
  • RarethRareth Posts: 1,462
    edited December 1969

    oh thank you. it got bigger when I wasn't looking

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  • eireann.sgeireann.sg Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Rareth said:
    oh thank you. it got bigger when I wasn't looking

    It got bigger? Then you had a male and a female in the first place, without birth control option.
    Isnt there a tick box "Birth control" on or off?
  • RarethRareth Posts: 1,462
    edited December 1969

    Rareth said:
    oh thank you. it got bigger when I wasn't looking

    It got bigger? Then you had a male and a female in the first place, without birth control option.
    Isnt there a tick box "Birth control" on or off?

    They added contraception to Bryce? I must have missed THAT tutorial on Bryce-Tutorials.info

  • eireann.sgeireann.sg Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Rareth said:
    Rareth said:
    oh thank you. it got bigger when I wasn't looking

    It got bigger? Then you had a male and a female in the first place, without birth control option.
    Isnt there a tick box "Birth control" on or off?

    They added contraception to Bryce? I must have missed THAT tutorial on Bryce-Tutorials.infoI think David must have made a video about it and if not maybe we can ask him for more info :)

    Attached a slinky for you.

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  • RarethRareth Posts: 1,462
    edited December 1969

    Rareth said:
    Rareth said:
    oh thank you. it got bigger when I wasn't looking

    It got bigger? Then you had a male and a female in the first place, without birth control option.
    Isnt there a tick box "Birth control" on or off?

    They added contraception to Bryce? I must have missed THAT tutorial on Bryce-Tutorials.infoI think David must have made a video about it and if not maybe we can ask him for more info :)

    Attached a slinky for you.

    Nice slinky, I found a new toy to play with attached is a screen shot of the results

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  • mermaid010mermaid010 Posts: 5,481
    edited December 1969

    Wow Rareth and Eireann lovely Wings 3D objects. I couldn’t install the plug-ins Eireann mentioned earlier.

    Still having fun with David’s lighting tutorials.

    The 1st is the Bryce 5 minute scene- obscure glow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QrFvOwVhgI, rendered at 256Rpp– 12 mins

    The 2nd image- Multiple glowing objects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lISK6iLJKpM
    I used Horo’s IceFire Hdri, preset materials for the objects and modified the materials to something I liked; for the ground plane I copied David’s settings, render time 4 hrs.47 mins. I’m quite pleased with this render and enjoyed doing it, although I’m not sure if the effect is what was intended in the tutorial.

    @ David, in this tutorial you mentioned another tutorial when you were changing the diffuse color to green making the R value to 19 from 1, even after many rewinds I did not catch the name of that tutorial.

    @Dave– you mentioned somewhere in this thread, that you could no longer open your beach scene –Bryce crashes. I can no longer open this scene too, Bryce crashes and I wanted to save the modified materials. Did you solve the issue about opening your beach scene?

    The 3rd image – 15 minutes - Specular obscure lighting theory – I used Horo’s Furka Hdri for this tutorial. Render 23mins 256 Rpp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUFz3CALIQ8&feature=relmfu

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  • HoroHoro Posts: 10,630
    edited December 1969

    Probably the entrance to the Platzspitz park. Thats some kind of a lawless zone. LMAO :)

    Well, things worsened a lot since I'm not in that town anymore. :lol:
  • HoroHoro Posts: 10,630
    edited December 1969

    @Rareth - nice models. The golden cube with the red sphere looks like some antique artefact.


    @eireann.sg - those white balls are very interestingly lit. It looks a bit as if the light sources in the median-cut image were made visible.


    @mermaid010 - excellent use of IceFire, an HDRI not for every day use but it fits in here nicely.

  • eireann.sgeireann.sg Posts: 0
    edited December 2012

    Horo said:

    @eireann.sg - those white balls are very interestingly lit. It looks a bit as if the light sources in the median-cut image were made visible.

    I just put in 9 lights and distributed them in a circle avbove the object, soft shadows and the lights have to be dimmed down or you have too much light.

    Horo said:
    Probably the entrance to the Platzspitz park. Thats some kind of a lawless zone. LMAO :)

    Well, things worsened a lot since I'm not in that town anymore. :lol:
    When you still patrolled Platzspitz they only did Heroin and Shit and now its worse, right? LOL
    Do they still distribute free syringes with the syringe packages lying all over the place?


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  • eireann.sgeireann.sg Posts: 0
    edited December 2012

    Wow Rareth and Eireann lovely Wings 3D objects. I couldn’t install the plug-ins Eireann mentioned earlier.

    Just download the tar.gz file, I think its made in 2011. Then you go to files....Install Plugin and then you select that plugin.
    Or are you using Eppel softwhere?
    BTW: The slinky is made with 100% Bryce. Just created a torus and then used multi replicate.

    Still having fun with David’s lighting tutorials.

    I noticed that and the results look very VERY nice.
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  • David BrinnenDavid Brinnen Posts: 3,136
    edited December 1969

    Nice to see the tutorials are getting exercised. Meanwhile... I am finding this seemingly simple idea is distracting me...

    Hmn... I seriously underestimated how tricky this idea was going to be.

    The locking mechanism still jams. It is closer to workable, but still a geometric impossibility. I may have to switch to a frame or liner lock - the flipper is redundant really with a back lock design. I was able to put in a slot to admit the geometry though...

    This time the pivot point is correctly located.

    I'm not fond of the blade shape, and I didn't get the hollow grind I wanted.

    Improvements, gimping is better. I've worked out a better method for skeletonisation which will save time.

    Swings and roundabouts. Oh and I managed to split off the cutting edge so it can be shiny while the rest is matt.

    As before comments on either the design or the render are welcome.

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  • eireann.sgeireann.sg Posts: 0
    edited December 2012

    Nice to see the tutorials are getting exercised. Meanwhile... I am finding this seemingly simple idea is distracting me...

    Hmn... I seriously underestimated how tricky this idea was going to be.

    Swings and roundabouts. Oh and I managed to split off the cutting edge so it can be shiny while the rest is matt.

    As before comments on either the design or the render are welcome.

    Do you sell your very nice knives also with mother of pearl grip?
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  • David BrinnenDavid Brinnen Posts: 3,136
    edited December 1969

    When I design one that could actually physically work, I will apply any kind of material you want.

  • pumecopumeco Posts: 0
    edited December 2012

    Well as usual the first thing that comes to mind is ... clever!

    Just goes to show the depth of what Bryce is already capable of and that it needs to be made more accessible so that more than just the clever-dicks such as your good-self can do these things. But anyway, nice work, the light part looks like it's galvanised, like I see on the street-lamp posts and sheet steel etc.

    BTW, when you're up to the challenge of another material type (like you did with the leatherette), just say the word. I have an idea about something and was curious how you would have done it.

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  • David BrinnenDavid Brinnen Posts: 3,136
    edited December 1969

    pumeco said:
    Well as usual the first thing that comes to mind is ... clever!

    Just goes to show the depth of what Bryce is already capable of and that it needs to be made more accessible so that more than just the clever-dicks such as your good-self can do these things. But anyway, nice work, the light part looks like it's galvanised, like I see on the street-lamp posts and sheet steel etc.

    BTW, when you're up to the challenge of another material type (like you did with the leatherette), just say the word. I have an idea about something and was curious how you would have done it.

    Not that clever... it would be cleverer if I could get beyond making three dimensional locking puzzles to something viable. Then I would include images of the innards - which I am hiding from you at the moment out of embarrassment at my own ineptitude to simply imagine one object with two moving parts.

    Anyway, fire away, I can ponder that while I'm trying to figure out how to make a frame lock.

  • Dave SavageDave Savage Posts: 2,433
    edited December 1969

    Oh well, it's that month now.

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  • pumecopumeco Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Well, to be fair you're trying to do something normally the domain of specialist CAD tools (it's more an engineers job than an artists job). What you're trying to do normally requires the sort of stuff you design robot arms with, and other mechanisms, and the key here is "dynamic constraint modeling" - something you don't get in standard modelers.

    Here's a video to give you an idea of what "dynamic constraint modeling" does:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6pJKAzaWw

    The program is free, you can use it as a modeler for Bryce, and it's available for Linux, Windows, and Mac:
    http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=Main_Page

    Been playing with it myself, awesome program, but it's new and doesn't work properly yet. But what you can do, is create live and dynamic constraints for your model as you model it, so that, for example, you can effectively test the mechanism on your knife as you model it. Watch how the bicycle frame behaves as he moves it around - that was due to some simple constraints, but you can create pretty much any type of constraint you wish. Frustrating if you're new to it, but cool when you get used to it. But there are lots of videos already for that program, so it's not too bad getting into it.

    As for the material, cheers, I'll dig up an example or two.

  • RarethRareth Posts: 1,462
    edited December 1969

    David the knife is coming along nicely, are you doing the modeling in Bryce?

    That FreeCad program looks interesting, I'll have to keep an eye on it. meanwhile I've done another Wings3D object

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  • pumecopumeco Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Peasant Brinnen, here you go then, your new material challenge:

    At the time Bryce 5 was the current release (and therefore used the old TA system), I started playing around with the idea of making various two-part materials to achieve things that cannot be achieved with a single surface. What triggered it was a burning desire to recreate angora, and it worked.

    I took a sphere, duplicated it, kept them both at the same position, and made one sphere slightly larger than the other. Unlike chrome, paint, and glass etc, angora has some relief to it because it has hairs that stand on end making it soft and fluffy. But it's so detailed with all those tiny hairs that modelling it is not a realistic option. So, the inner sphere was designed to be a standard material (perhaps a little SSS) and the outer sphere was put into Volumetric mode. The colours were roughly matched to each other with the inner sphere being made slightly darker.

    Then, the magic part; the outer Volumetric sphere had a noise-like texture applied to it at a small scale so that it effectively "floated" like microscopic clouds over the inner sphere. It wasn't perfect, but I had the impression of that soft fluff and at least I knew the effect worked as expected. I even tried rim-lighting it and it still gave a reassuring look, in fact it made me smile, big-time.

    But when I did it it was only crude and with the old TA system, and I never even bothered to back it up or go back to it. So your challenge is to recreate a completed angora material (see attached photo). It's different in the sense it requires two geometries, or (and the main reason for this) one geometry if you can figure out a way to do that. So, perhaps try to create angora with one geometry if at all possible, but if it isn't, build upon the technique I described and make it better using your DTE skills to control the volumetric fluff. If you do it well I think you'll find a lot of people using it because it looks awesome even when it's done crude!

    Angora looks sexy as hell on the right clothes, and people render lots of Vickies around here ;-)

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  • RarethRareth Posts: 1,462
    edited December 1969

    hmm Angora, interesting.. very interesting..

    Oh look Shiney!!!

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  • David BrinnenDavid Brinnen Posts: 3,136
    edited December 1969

    pumeco said:
    Peasant Brinnen, here you go then, your new material challenge:

    At the time Bryce 5 was the current release (and therefore used the old TA system), I started playing around with the idea of making various two-part materials to achieve things that cannot be achieved with a single surface. What triggered it was a burning desire to recreate angora, and it worked.

    I took a sphere, duplicated it, kept them both at the same position, and made one sphere slightly larger than the other. Unlike chrome, paint, and glass etc, angora has some relief to it because it has hairs that stand on end making it soft and fluffy. But it's so detailed with all those tiny hairs that modelling it is not a realistic option. So, the inner sphere was designed to be a standard material (perhaps a little SSS) and the outer sphere was put into Volumetric mode. The colours were roughly matched to each other with the inner sphere being made slightly darker.

    Then, the magic part; the outer Volumetric sphere had a noise-like texture applied to it at a small scale so that it effectively "floated" like microscopic clouds over the inner sphere. It wasn't perfect, but I had the impression of that soft fluff and at least I knew the effect worked as expected. I even tried rim-lighting it and it still gave a reassuring look, in fact it made me smile, big-time.

    But when I did it it was only crude and with the old TA system, and I never even bothered to back it up or go back to it. So your challenge is to recreate a completed angora material (see attached photo). It's different in the sense it requires two geometries, or (and the main reason for this) one geometry if you can figure out a way to do that. So, perhaps try to create angora with one geometry if at all possible, but if it isn't, build upon the technique I described and make it better using your DTE skills to control the volumetric fluff. If you do it well I think you'll find a lot of people using it because it looks awesome even when it's done crude!

    Angora looks sexy as hell on the right clothes, and people render lots of Vickies around here ;-)

    Hmn... well, there's one main issue that is going to scotch this idea for making clothes. It will work on primitive geometries but not meshes. And this would help https://bugs.daz3d.com/view.php?id=39434 But I will investigate never the less.

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