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dForce Neo-Victorian Outfit - the bodysuit is only a Geoshell :(

maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752
in The Commons

As the title says: the dForce Neo-Victorian Outfit, while looking cool and offering several nice accessoires, has only a geo shell as a "bodysuit", which isn't mentioned in the description. Because I got it greatly reduced and because I really like the accessoires, I will not return the product. But I'm a bit disappointed that such a - imho - important detail wasn't mentioned.

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  • PennamePenname Posts: 344

    I bought it too and, like you, I appreciate the look, but I think that information should have been included.

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,951

    As a product maker I am curious what the problem is that you see with the geo-shell. It is a very useful way to have body-suits that follow characters shapes perfectly, unlike mesh body suits that can bunch up or clip in odd ways depending on poses

     

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,873

    As I understand it - please correct me if I'm wrong - it's fifficult to fit geoshells to a different generation of character, making them less flexible if you use more than one generation.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,951

    You cant fit geoshells to a different generation..the shells are generated off the figure itself. That is why they fit so well and are so useful

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,873
    edited February 4

    So, using a Gen8 geoshell underwear on Gen9 is not possible. That makes it less flexible to some users, even if it fits Gen8 better & more easily, and might be beneficial to know prior to purchase for those to whom it is important.

    Regards,

    Richard

    (Edited for tripe writing error)

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  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,364
    I would feel misled by a product that labels something as a bodysuit in the "What's included and Features" if it was a textured geoshell. It's also a dForce product, which isn't going to apply to the the geoshell.
  • ElorElor Posts: 1,887
    edited February 4

    RawArt said:

    You cant fit geoshells to a different generation..the shells are generated off the figure itself. That is why they fit so well and are so useful

    It's usually possible between Genesis 8 and 3 and when it's working, it's even easier than using a Genesis 8 geoshell on Genesis 8.1: you just have to remember to turn the Eyelashes surface off in the geoshell to avoid the eyelashes being white.

    Here's an example with a Genesis 8 geoshell on Genesis 3 (I don't know if I have a product with a Genesis 3 geoshell to test the opposite way but I suppose it should work too):

    It's not a certainty and as an example, the bodysuit of the Winter Trenchcoat didn't work (it seems to be using it's own UV instead of the 'Base Female' UV and I don't know if it's possible to use the Map Transfert tool to transfert the bodysuit UV map to 'Base Female').

    Edit: I found a G3 freebie using Geoshell and from my limited testing, it's working fine on Genesis 8.

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  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    RawArt said:

    As a product maker I am curious what the problem is that you see with the geo-shell. It is a very useful way to have body-suits that follow characters shapes perfectly, unlike mesh body suits that can bunch up or clip in odd ways depending on poses

     Most of all it's the lack of options to make the clothing behave like real clothing - especially when trying to picture the removal of the clothing. wink With a mesh body one can often (!) at least use dForce to get it in a state of undress. With a geoshell it's on or off...

    I won't say that geo-shell clothes are bad per se, as the advantages you mentioned make them interesting for many people. But they usually (!) don't suit my needs and if I had known that the mentioned product came as a geo-shell, I might have decided to not spend my money for it. In the end, I paid for the parts of the product that interested me the most anyway (aka the accessoires)

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,951

    ok...thanx for sharing

    I used geo-shells for the bodysuits on my recent super hero guy release (though clearly mentioned as a geoshell), as I found it to be so useful for that kind of thing.

     

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,901

    RawArt said:

    ok...thanx for sharing

    I used geo-shells for the bodysuits on my recent super hero guy release (though clearly mentioned as a geoshell), as I found it to be so useful for that kind of thing.

    It is useful for that sort of thing, yes. That said, it's a good idea to tell people that it's a geoshell rather than a standard clothing item -- and you absolutely did, which is great. Others sometimes do not, which appears to be the case here.

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