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4.23.0.1 the good Bad and Weirdness.

ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,688
edited October 13 in The Commons

There's good and not a lot bad about 4.23.0.1 with Filatoon but there is one bad thing and some weirdness.  I am going to do 3 posts for the sake of clarity. Here's the bad

  1. The bad is that when I DIM downloaded 4.23.0.1 along with 2 updated G9 Essentials and 1 new G9 Essentials product, it obliterated G8 Starter Essentials and G9 Starter Essentials Expansion resulting in G9 Essentials consisting of only toon characters. 
  2. This behavior affects all Pro and Beta versions 4.12, 4.15, 4.21, 4.22. This appears to be a direct result of the essential installs, not the version 4.23.0.1. This only affects machines with existing content.
  3. I did not buy any additonal toon products , this was just non Premier free for all versions of product.
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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,688
    edited October 13

    The Weird:

    1. Due to the Library Data. Beta version 4.12 has the toons installed and they not only work, but they rendered in Iray on my dual 1080ti rig.  I'll post pics in a minute or three. Again I did not install anything on the BETA. This is due to the LIBRARY files. 

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,688
    edited October 13

    The Good which is sort of weird and unexpected. 

    1. I installed 4.23.0.1 on my offline main rig by grabbing the Studio folder only, from  a different machine and tossed it on my dual RTX2080ti rig (left the program files in tact). I do not think I installed any essentials or any other files. Did not use DIM. 4.23.0.1. It left all existing G9 and G8 Essentials intact and works and of course has no toons installed. I won't install any toons or updates on the main rig until I finish my current project which relies on pre 4.23 G8 and G9 Essentials. So in short the library 4.23.0.1 is using is my old library. Have not tested it hardly, but the point is the fault lies with library files.

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,688
    edited October 13

    The really good surprising news is this: I downloaded it onto an older custom build that has an old Kepler card. A GTX760. This machine never had DAZ installed on it. I DIM downloaded it and installed it the exact same way I did on the dual 1080ti machine. It was the best install. It did not obliterate any files. Everything related to Genesis 9 and Genesis 8 works as it should and so do the toons.. It rendered in a flash. I'll go back and attach screenshots for each post. The problem for me is I need my dev packages, because I won't do much if anything on the 760 it was just a test.

    Also I was so impressed with the whole filatoon thing, and because I'm trying to use up my store credit, I went back on the 12th and bought the three bundles and every toon offering they had and the otter and a few other things. Today I bought nothing but stll have a decent store credit left. So I am not complaining about the product.

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,915

    ArtAngel said:

    There's good and not a lot bad about 4.23.0.1 with Filatoon but there is one bad thing and some weirdness.  I am going to do 3 posts for the sake of clarity. Here's the bad

    1. The bad is that when I DIM downloaded 4.23.0.1 along with 2 updated G9 Essentials and 1 new G9 Essentials product, it obliterated G8 Starter Essentials and G9 Starter Essentials Expansion resulting in G9 Essentials consisting of only toon characters. 
    2. This behavior affects all Pro and Beta versions 4.12, 4.15, 4.21, 4.22. This appears to be a direct result of the essential installs, not the version 4.23.0.1. This only affects machines with existing content.
    3. I did not buy any additonal toon products , this was just non Premier free for all versions of product.

    The issue has nothing to do with Daz Studio per se other than content installation glitch as well as metadata. Pls check this post to fix it: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8905896/#Comment_8905896

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,915
    edited October 13

    ArtAngel said:

    The Weird:

    1. Due to the Library Data. Beta version 4.12 has the toons installed and they not only work, but they rendered in Iray on my dual 1080ti rig.  I'll post pics in a minute or three. Again I did not install anything on the BETA. This is due to the LIBRARY files.

    Content assets are shared among different DS versions as you must have the same library settings configured in Content Directory Manager, however, new FilaToon shader as well as new filament plugin and API are DS 4.23 dependent. You cannot make them work in older DS versions ~~

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,915

    ArtAngel said:

    The Good which is sort of weird and unexpected. 

    1. I installed 4.23.0.1 on my offline main rig by grabbing the Studio folder only, from  a different machine and tossed it on my dual RTX2080ti rig (left the program files in tact). I do not think I installed any essentials or any other files. Did not use DIM. 4.23.0.1. It left all existing G9 and G8 Essentials intact and works and of course has no toons installed. I won't install any toons or updates on the main rig until I finish my current project which relies on pre 4.23 G8 and G9 Essentials. So in short the library 4.23.0.1 is using is my old library. Have not tested it hardly, but the point is the fault lies with library files.

    Just because the latest metadata of essentials (incl. new toon assets..) was not imported there...

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,915
    edited October 13

    ArtAngel said:

    The really good surprising news is this: I downloaded it onto an older custom build that has an old Kepler card. A GTX760. This machine never had DAZ installed on it. I DIM downloaded it and installed it the exact same way I did on the dual 1080ti machine. It was the best install. It did not obliterate any files. Everything related to Genesis 9 and Genesis 8 works as it should and so do the toons.. It rendered in a flash. I'll go back and attach screenshots for each post. The problem for me is I need my dev packages, because I won't do much if anything on the 760 it was just a test.

    Also I was so impressed with the whole filatoon thing, and because I'm trying to use up my store credit, I went back on the 12th and bought the three bundles and every toon offering they had and the otter and a few other things. Today I bought nothing but stll have a decent store credit left. So I am not complaining about the product.

    Yes, because it was a neat installation with metadata successfully imported. And filament supports OpenGL, so it also works well with your Kepler card. Congrats !

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,688
    edited October 13

    crosswind said:

    ArtAngel said:

    There's good and not a lot bad about 4.23.0.1 with Filatoon but there is one bad thing and some weirdness.  I am going to do 3 posts for the sake of clarity. Here's the bad

    1. The bad is that when I DIM downloaded 4.23.0.1 along with 2 updated G9 Essentials and 1 new G9 Essentials product, it obliterated G8 Starter Essentials and G9 Starter Essentials Expansion resulting in G9 Essentials consisting of only toon characters. 
    2. This behavior affects all Pro and Beta versions 4.12, 4.15, 4.21, 4.22. This appears to be a direct result of the essential installs, not the version 4.23.0.1. This only affects machines with existing content.
    3. I did not buy any additonal toon products , this was just non Premier free for all versions of product.

    The issue has nothing to do with Daz Studio per se other than content installation glitch as well as metadata. Pls check this post to fix it: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8905896/#Comment_8905896

    Thank you. I appreciate the response. It's 2.18 am here in California so maybe I'm over-tired but the icons look dark grey to me. 

    Edit; Heading to get a few hours of sleep. I'll check in tomorrow. Thanks again.

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,915
    edited October 13

    ArtAngel said:

    crosswind said:

    ArtAngel said:

    There's good and not a lot bad about 4.23.0.1 with Filatoon but there is one bad thing and some weirdness.  I am going to do 3 posts for the sake of clarity. Here's the bad

    1. The bad is that when I DIM downloaded 4.23.0.1 along with 2 updated G9 Essentials and 1 new G9 Essentials product, it obliterated G8 Starter Essentials and G9 Starter Essentials Expansion resulting in G9 Essentials consisting of only toon characters. 
    2. This behavior affects all Pro and Beta versions 4.12, 4.15, 4.21, 4.22. This appears to be a direct result of the essential installs, not the version 4.23.0.1. This only affects machines with existing content.
    3. I did not buy any additonal toon products , this was just non Premier free for all versions of product.

    The issue has nothing to do with Daz Studio per se other than content installation glitch as well as metadata. Pls check this post to fix it: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8905896/#Comment_8905896

    Thank you. I appreciate the response. It's 2.18 am here in California so maybe I'm over-tired but the icons look dark grey to me.

    Right ~ even though it's dark grey, you still have to re-import the metadata... DIM has various glitches ~ devil

    BTW, going to bed is much more important than playing with DS, good night ! smiley

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  • sewerynmajdasewerynmajda Posts: 25

    ArtAngel said:

    The really good surprising news is this: I downloaded it onto an older custom build that has an old Kepler card. A GTX760. This machine never had DAZ installed on it. I DIM downloaded it and installed it the exact same way I did on the dual 1080ti machine. It was the best install. It did not obliterate any files. Everything related to Genesis 9 and Genesis 8 works as it should and so do the toons.. It rendered in a flash. I'll go back and attach screenshots for each post. The problem for me is I need my dev packages, because I won't do much if anything on the 760 it was just a test.

    Also I was so impressed with the whole filatoon thing, and because I'm trying to use up my store credit, I went back on the 12th and bought the three bundles and every toon offering they had and the otter and a few other things. Today I bought nothing but stll have a decent store credit left. So I am not complaining about the product.

     Everything except Iray will work on that card. I was using my GTX Titan Black up until recently (RIP 2014-2024) with Daz Studio. It's also a Kepler card, and I had zero issues with the program.

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