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  • OrangeFalconOrangeFalcon Posts: 179

    Gordig said:

    Dartanbeck said:

    • Why does the hair disappear if I only apply the base shader to that?

    Because dForce Strand-Based Hair doesn't work with the shader

    Yes, it does. You need to have line tesselation set to 3 for both viewport and render, and then you can make it look like this: 

    To those wondering how to achieve this, select your hair, go to the Parameters tab and under Line Tesselation, the Viewport Line Tesselation Sides is the specific value you want to change.  If for whatever reason you don't see the hair at all, there's also a setting in Simulation called Preview PR Hairs, which should be set to on.  Enjoy!

  • MartialMartial Posts: 424

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,243

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

  • livepassioneverydaylivepassioneveryday Posts: 35

    I'm liking the FilaToon thing, but now suddenly, I'm unable to render in Iray. I'm using all the same settings as before, but it won't even start rendering, it just goes to the save option with a blank image. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,243

    livepassioneveryday said:

    I'm liking the FilaToon thing, but now suddenly, I'm unable to render in Iray. I'm using all the same settings as before, but it won't even start rendering, it just goes to the save option with a blank image. 

    Did you remember to change the Render Engine (on the Render Settings Pane) back to NVIDIA Iray (MDL)?

  • livepassioneverydaylivepassioneveryday Posts: 35

     

    Did you remember to change the Render Engine (on the Render Settings Pane) back to NVIDIA Iray (MDL)?

    Absolutely. I went back to some scenes that I've rendered before, and changed it to the Iray settings, and even those won't render. 

     

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,243

    livepassioneveryday said:

     

    Did you remember to change the Render Engine (on the Render Settings Pane) back to NVIDIA Iray (MDL)?

    Absolutely. I went back to some scenes that I've rendered before, and changed it to the Iray settings, and even those won't render.

    I haven't had that problem. Try closing DS and restarting it. Maybe reboot your computer. I don't know what else to recommend.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,458
    edited October 13

    Six Genesis 9 characters and counting. In iray I can barely render 2 Genesis 9 characters on GPU.

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  • MartialMartial Posts: 424
    edited October 13

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,965
    edited October 13

    Martial said:

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Online with DIM, you can find it in Ready to Download tab, by filtering with Default. Also tick Display Hidden, just in case you've ever had it hidden.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • MartialMartial Posts: 424
    edited October 13

    Ok i have reinstalled DAZ Studio 4,23 and i have now Daz defaut ressources reinsatlled  when i load base genesis  gen9  toon  BUT still no Filatoon in my shaders presets or in the shaders folders  Sorry about that but where can i find Filatoon shaders

    I hesitate to buy some toon products if these basic are not there

     

    Martial said:

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • PetraPetra Posts: 1,154

    Mada said:

    Petra said:

    Can one put normal Iray shaders on the new Victoria 9 toon shape?

    Yes but you won't have the outline, and the normal G9 eyeballs would probably work better with Iray Textures.

    If you're just after the iray texture but still want the outline and render in filament, just drop the base colour texture used in iray into the right channel.

    In this image I loaded Vicky Toon, and then applied Josie's Iray shader, and then removed the maps from the normal and specular channels to get a flatter look

    Thank you so very much Mada, that is lovely. Is there a light that you could recommend that works good with filament renders? 

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,965
    edited October 13

    Martial said:

    Ok i have reinstalled DAZ Studio 4,23 and i have now Daz defaut ressources reinsatlled  when i load base genesis  gen9  toon  BUT still no Filatoon in my shaders presets or in the shaders folders  Sorry about that but where can i find Filatoon shaders

    I hesitate to buy some toon products if these basic are not there

     

    Martial said:

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Can you find these in below screenshot ?

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    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited October 13

     This is very handy release. I can see how it can be used for rendering only the characters, then drawing the rest of the scene on top.

    It'd need to be rendered with perspective grid underlays, though.

     

     

     Hey, this release makes me want to use Genesis 9 for once. I consider that a success.

     

     

    Be back soon after I'm done putting Pixie 9 in power armor.

    Post edited by PixelSploiting on
  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,398

    I can easily replicate my favorite PWToon preset styles.

    This is winner-winner chicken dinner in my book.

     

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  • thistledownsnamethistledownsname Posts: 1,325

    Not working for me.  Tried to apply the material and this is what's in the log.

    2024-10-13 10:58:12.040 [INFO] :: Begin asset load (merge): /People/Genesis 9 Toon/Materials/Daz Originals/Anime Materials/G9 Anime All MAT Feminine.duf
    2024-10-13 10:58:12.048 [INFO] :: Determining missing assets...
    2024-10-13 10:58:12.103 [WARNING] :: Invalid hierarchy for selected node(s) and "preset_hierarchical_material" type; no root(s) found.
    2024-10-13 10:58:12.103 [WARNING] :: Error loading asset: D:/Daz Dim Purchaces/people/genesis 9 toon/materials/daz originals/anime materials/g9 anime all mat feminine.duf
        Operation failed

     

  • MartialMartial Posts: 424
    edited October 13

     

    Yes but only when i call a search for Filatoon but i dont know where it is in my library See file attachement

    And i don't have product menu beside file menu and nowhere in the top menu

    crosswind said:

    Martial said:

    Ok i have reinstalled DAZ Studio 4,23 and i have now Daz defaut ressources reinsatlled  when i load base genesis  gen9  toon  BUT still no Filatoon in my shaders presets or in the shaders folders  Sorry about that but where can i find Filatoon shaders

    I hesitate to buy some toon products if these basic are not there

     

    Martial said:

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Can you find these in below screenshot ?

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    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,009

    For a long time I kept making PWToon renders, even long after I had switched hard to Iray.

    FilaToon is the absolute final nail. Works waaaaaaaaaaaay better.

     

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,965
    edited October 13

    Martial said:

     

    Yes but only when i call a search for Filatoon but i dont know where it is in my library See file attachement

    And i don't have product menu beside file menu and nowhere in the top menu

    crosswind said:

    Martial said:

    Ok i have reinstalled DAZ Studio 4,23 and i have now Daz defaut ressources reinsatlled  when i load base genesis  gen9  toon  BUT still no Filatoon in my shaders presets or in the shaders folders  Sorry about that but where can i find Filatoon shaders

    I hesitate to buy some toon products if these basic are not there

     

    Martial said:

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Can you find these in below screenshot ?

    No... not in that way, as what I showed you in the above SS, go to Smart Content pane, filter by Default, then click in ~~

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • MartialMartial Posts: 424
    edited October 13
     

    First thanks for your help

    Second see in these scren shots what i found now

    crosswind said:

    Martial said:

     

    Yes but only when i call a search for Filatoon but i dont know where it is in my library See file attachement

    And i don't have product menu beside file menu and nowhere in the top menu

    crosswind said:

    Martial said:

    Ok i have reinstalled DAZ Studio 4,23 and i have now Daz defaut ressources reinsatlled  when i load base genesis  gen9  toon  BUT still no Filatoon in my shaders presets or in the shaders folders  Sorry about that but where can i find Filatoon shaders

    I hesitate to buy some toon products if these basic are not there

     

    Martial said:

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Can you find these in below screenshot ?

    No... not in that way, as what I showed you in the above SS, go to Smart Content pane, filter by Default, then click in ~~

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • MartialMartial Posts: 424
    edited October 13

    Oups sorry there are here

    Martial said:

     

    First thanks for your help

    Second see in these scren shots what i found now

    crosswind said:

    Martial said:

     

    Yes but only when i call a search for Filatoon but i dont know where it is in my library See file attachement

    And i don't have product menu beside file menu and nowhere in the top menu

    crosswind said:

    Martial said:

    Ok i have reinstalled DAZ Studio 4,23 and i have now Daz defaut ressources reinsatlled  when i load base genesis  gen9  toon  BUT still no Filatoon in my shaders presets or in the shaders folders  Sorry about that but where can i find Filatoon shaders

    I hesitate to buy some toon products if these basic are not there

     

    Martial said:

    Thanks but i am searching in DIM and not find Daz Default Resources

    Where i can find it?

     

    Thanks butbarbult said:

    Martial said:

    Allo

    I am usindg DAZStudio for many yers but never did some toons

    What news products for Gen 9 must i have for beginning to do toons ? I have

    Where can i find Filatoon shaders

    ?

    I am using 4,23 version and i i have gen 9 toon i my products library

    You need to update Default Resources.

    Can you find these in below screenshot ?

    No... not in that way, as what I showed you in the above SS, go to Smart Content pane, filter by Default, then click in ~~

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    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,398

    Oso3D said:

    For a long time I kept making PWToon renders, even long after I had switched hard to Iray.

    FilaToon is the absolute final nail. Works waaaaaaaaaaaay better.

    Agreed. PWToon was the last reason I ever held onto 3DL.

  • cathan01_wwg1wgacathan01_wwg1wga Posts: 360

    Testing filatoon using a Sakura 8 character I've been working on. Postwork in GIMP.

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  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,045

    Just having a play around with some of FilaToon's features. When I noticed the LUT textures my mind immediately went to Team Fortress 2, which used similar "light warp" textures to achieve it's style of cel-shading. Low and behold, the light warp texture from TF2 works in FilaToon.

    Light warp texture from here: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$lightwarptexture

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  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989

    TheNathanParable said:

    Just having a play around with some of FilaToon's features. When I noticed the LUT textures my mind immediately went to Team Fortress 2, which used similar "light warp" textures to achieve it's style of cel-shading. Low and behold, the light warp texture from TF2 works in FilaToon.

    Light warp texture from here: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$lightwarptexture

    That looks good :D

  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989

    cathan01_wwg1wga said:

    Testing filatoon using a Sakura 8 character I've been working on. Postwork in GIMP.

    Very nice :)

  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989
    edited October 13

    Love seeing all the renders, and hearing tips from users. Thank you :)

    Post edited by Mada on
  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,045
    edited October 13

    There is one aspect of FilaToon that I find disappointing. It seems the MatCaps completely remove all standard shading/shadows when used (at least when used at full strength). If you set one of the blending modes to something other than MatCap or Base (such as Multiply), it'll only multiply over the base colour/texture without any of the shadows.

    I was hoping MatCaps would be able to enhance the existing shading there rather than replace it entirely. Seems the only way to use both is to have the MatCap set to a lower strength, which isn't really good for what I want to do.

    Post edited by TheNathanParable on
  • cathan01_wwg1wgacathan01_wwg1wga Posts: 360

    Oso3D said:

    For a long time I kept making PWToon renders, even long after I had switched hard to Iray.

    FilaToon is the absolute final nail. Works waaaaaaaaaaaay better.

    I regretted never buying PWToon, especially with many nice freebie addons released. And, thinking to get back into serious anime-style rendering, I grabbed LineRender9000 not long ago when in was on sale... and filatoon is released. I'm both elated for the new shaders and kicking myself for purchasing a product (LineRender9000) I'm probably going to retire soon. I'd pay for the anime shapes if they were made available on G8. I might try some of the character transfer tutorials I've found, but stylized shapes have me worried about distortions in nose and eye morphs.

    Wonderful releases, Daz3D. Thanks to eveyone involved in their creation and for the many tips this thread has provided.

  • MarcCCTxMarcCCTx Posts: 924
    edited October 13

    Cool you can use https://www.daz3d.com/glass-for-filament, you can even add an outline,

     

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