AI in DAZ studio what makes sense what are the fears?
Fantozzi
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All this fuzz about AI confuses me. Not shure how to judge. Some say, AI destroys the individual artistic aproach it is an enemy to artists. Some say it is a usefull invention. Lately I was philosophering (
) about what could makes sense what would insult me, the creative director of all my software.
Don't know, for example, how AI in animations could work. I spend really much time on the animation process and AI seems handy to me - just telling her: "make a ministry of silly walk" and . bamm! - you get it. But on character creation - the fun part - I think I don't need AI's opinion, really don't care for her aesthetic taste.
May I ask: what's your opinion about AI? Where do you see benefits, where do you see malodourus regarding the future of DAZ studio?
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Moved to Daz AI Studio.
I don't mind AI, and have used it to edit my renders or to create thumbnails for things I want to draw. AI will never replace my own desire to have a hand in my own creations. Just like how using DAZ Studio will never be a substitute for drawing because it is it's own thing.
What I don't like is how others use it. Some treat it as a game, since they are basically gambling to get a good image and think that this gambling is the same as taking hours with planning and illustrating a single picture. The use clearly seems to encourage a quantity over quality mentality, especially among people who have never enjoyed the act of illustration. The people making these AI images upload large volumes of it. As a result, AI images have now polluted search engines and it's difficult to find a good reference image. (Perhaps, of these uploaders had any consideration for quality, maybe if they edited their results so they wouldn't be warped/deformed, the pollution would seem more tasteful.)
In regards to DAZ Studio, DAZ AI should've been one of those AIs where you upload an image (ideally a render) and it bases the pic it makes on it. The user then determines the intensity of the original image and/or prompt. I feel like this would've been good for people with weaker PCs, people who don't own a lot of assets, or people who are trying to get inspiration by seeing their own work remixed.
Yes agree completely!!
For me the best use case for generative AI is to restyle renders of my existing works
with consistent coherency
hopefully we will soon have the ability to render out a screen play blast and have AI restyle those frames to look like fully rendered frames in various styles.
I took some frame grabs, from my last two animated film projects, and restyled them with AI
I hope soon we will have the ability to do this for our entire animated (or even live action) movies
I'd say make up your own mind. There will always be people who aren’t happy with anything.
This is a DAZ AI Studio forum where most people share similar views so that no one will criticize you here. But out on the internet, as I mentioned, you'll find both supporters and haters.
Peace.
There are lots of good use for AI tools, as with any tools it can be used for bad things.
The problem with it is not AI itself, big AI companies steal and grab everything they can to use for AI training, no compensation or anything for the content creator and usually they have no idea if they even have the right to use the content (and they don't care).
A person putting a picture of his/her kids on Facebook a few years ago would not think that those images would be used for AI training, many websites have information that the content cannot be used for AI training, I am sure OpenAI and the others respect this... we have seen compaines vacuum YT for everything claming they have the right to use all on YT for AI training and so on, AI by itself may not be bad, but the compaines creating this is bad, and when bad companies make things it will usually end up as crap.
Another problem is that when an AI is trained on junk data you get junk results, this has also happened a number of times (the skin cancer rulers problem comes to mind....)
And finally we have the users (sorry but they are often idiots) they think the AI actually understand what the result mean and think the AI don't like them or is angry on them or other crap like that, AI will not end the world, the people using AI will.
You basically asked the question ive had on my mind for a long time. Where do Ai leave Daz/Blender/Maya etc...? I guess it is similar to musicians asking the same question. But I would like to know from DAZ3d themselves. It seems DAZ3d is moving towards the Ai generating themselves? Probably to keep DAZ3d going for future. Which can only mean they know something or fear something we don't?
Personally I love creating like yourself, so if that is "taken" away from creators such as us and replaced by people who are more interested in Ai generated erm... "art" then I see applications like DAZ (in current form) and Blender etc... slowly dying. I guess it's like MP3 versus CD's.
So yeah for me, I'm not into punching a couple thoughts into a algorythm online and it does what it does to produce a almost life like or perfect "comic style" image or animation.
In DAZ studio I have a lot of highly customized characters, like the one I'm submitting, which is based on G8.1 (clothes are converted from V4). Do you think it will be possible to use them in Daz AI? Otherwise it is of little interest to me.
Thanks.
F.
I don't think it's possible to use much with it at the moment.
Regards,
Richard
Thanks for you answer; i won't subscribe DAZ AI for the moment. (PS: do you think the one I submitted is a convincing character?)
Thanks