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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712
    edited May 1

    Yep - Archery in AI is yuk !!!

    Frank Frazetta Fantasy woman f-cup breast size, A huntress tracking her prey through the wilderness, her bow always at the ready

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  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,777

    Not everybody would see that as a problem, surprise

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712

    FirstBastion said:

    Not everybody would see that as a problem, surprise

    I have done Archery, so the AI results are creating for me groans of horror ....

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712
    edited May 1

    DAZ-AI is having "Free the Nipple" moments tonight, have had 4 images that are topless so far .....

    A woodland nymph communing with the spirits of nature, her connection to the earth strong and unbreakable

     

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  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,777

    Bunyip02 said:

    FirstBastion said:

    Not everybody would see that as a problem, surprise

    I have done Archery, so the AI results are creating for me groans of horror ....

    simple misunderstanding,  i should have quoted, was refering to the missing top hehehe...

    I have also been an archer since I was a kid,  so totally understand the cringe when it comes to the bow and arrow.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,756

    Bunyip02 said:

    DAZ-AI is having "Free the Nipple" moments tonight, have had 4 images that are topless so far .....

     

    Same and it's nice to see! LOLl Looks like AI is synced with the new promo guidlines, LOL

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,756
    edited May 1

    Even DAZ AI thinks warrior women should be wearing heels, so the DAZ marketplace can't be wrong, LMAO!

     

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  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783

    Daz AI may know its UFOs but hasn't a flippin' clue about Fokkers. Because this is what I got when I asked it for some. 

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712
    edited May 2

    Meet the Fokkers ....

    Fokker DR1 Triplane

     

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,756

    Yeah, I gave up on any aviation images. EVERY aircraft I tried had an issue with it

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783

    surprise Is that part of an old fashioned lawn mower I see on those first two instead of landing gear? Not to mention missing wings, misaligned wings and wheels that appear to have fallen right off. Was the AI maybe shown too many pictures of unassembled aircraft parts or heaven help us, wreckage? That's the only explanation I can think of for such a mess.

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712
    edited May 3

    All AI imagery seems to have a problem with Aviation subjects. These are Krita AI, and I only saved the better ones .....

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712
    edited May 3

    A cursed princess bound by an enchanted spell, her only hope for freedom lying in the hands of a true hero

    I think her hands are cursed as well ....

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,756

    Bunyip02 said:

    I think her hands are cursed as well ....

     

    LMAO! yep, looks that way

    BTW how is Krita AI? you using the github plugin? I don't use Krita, but was thinking of trying it out till i saw the interface surprisesurprise

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712
    edited May 4

    Installed the github plugin, also installed a couple more Checkpoints and a heap of LORAs from civitai.com.

    Initially was a bit confused with the interface, but after watching a few videos on it worked it out.

    Some of the LORAs are a bit repetitive after a while, and one gave some R-rated images of females so if you have kiddies about beware.

    The second pointer arrow/asterix pointing to the gear symbol gives access to the configure panel.

    This is version 1.15 so later versions might have changed a bit.

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,756

    No kids around, so no issues there. I use the LoRAs from CivitAI in Fooocus AI, so it's good I can use them in Krita also. Thanks for the info!

  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,387

    FSMCDesigns said:

    No kids around, so no issues there. I use the LoRAs from CivitAI in Fooocus AI, so it's good I can use them in Krita also. Thanks for the info!

    Mike,

    I'm a little confused. I Googled Krita and it apears to be painting program. Does it do Ai art as well?

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712

    alexhcowley said:

    FSMCDesigns said:

    No kids around, so no issues there. I use the LoRAs from CivitAI in Fooocus AI, so it's good I can use them in Krita also. Thanks for the info!

    Mike,

    I'm a little confused. I Googled Krita and it apears to be painting program. Does it do Ai art as well?

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

    Hello Alex

    Krita is indeed a paint program, there is a Github plugin that allows the user to use AI in it.

    https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,510

    Bunyip02 said:

    alexhcowley said:

    FSMCDesigns said:

    No kids around, so no issues there. I use the LoRAs from CivitAI in Fooocus AI, so it's good I can use them in Krita also. Thanks for the info!

    Mike,

    I'm a little confused. I Googled Krita and it apears to be painting program. Does it do Ai art as well?

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

    Hello Alex

    Krita is indeed a paint program, there is a Github plugin that allows the user to use AI in it.

    https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

    Thanks for posting it.

    I have used ComfUI for some time, but could not get to more advanced stuff, like ControlNet in ComfyUI.

    Krita AI looks much simpler to use.

     

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,741
    edited May 8

    Still persisting with "Woman piloting a spacecraft crash lands and is savaged by a house cat.", and the AI still seems to have difficulties with cats, feet and cat tails.

    There is also a robo-cat...

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,510

    The Cats are fascinating, aren't they? laugh

     

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,777
    edited May 8

    Here's a question,  does our  previous output history, influence the AI's current generative output?  I tried the exact same prompt as Richard.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,482

    The seed value does determine the initial noise pattern that is then refined to correlate with images described by words from the prompt, so different people will get different seeds and so different values. The same prompt with the same seed with the same engine should give the same result.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,777
    edited May 8

    So is that seed value always random,  or does it skew in a direction because of a specific user's previous prompts and outputs?

     

    I'm asking cause ChatGPT for example  remembers its earlier comments and can reference them in later outputs. 

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,482

    I don't know, though you can access the seed value to look by clicking the seed/nut icon on the image(s)

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,741
    I have put in the same prompt and seed a week apart and got the same image. Incrementing the seed by one between images leads to very different images, so I'd say not yet proven about the influence, but probably not. Regards, Richard.
  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,387

    Bunyip02 said:

    alexhcowley said:

    FSMCDesigns said:

    No kids around, so no issues there. I use the LoRAs from CivitAI in Fooocus AI, so it's good I can use them in Krita also. Thanks for the info!

    Mike,

    I'm a little confused. I Googled Krita and it apears to be painting program. Does it do Ai art as well?

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

    Hello Alex

    Krita is indeed a paint program, there is a Github plugin that allows the user to use AI in it.

    https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

    Thanks,

    Alex. 

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,741
    edited May 9

    First Bastion (or anyone - the more the better to get an idea of whether yourprevious history affects the results), it would be interesting if you entered the prompt and seed I stated in this post to see if you get the same image:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8681421/#Comment_8681421

    Prompt: Woman piloting a spacecraft crash lands and is savaged by a house cat.

    Seed: 1964012014

    Other generation detail: I just had one image, used V9 as the character.. Image size 1024 square, quality balanced, default prompt strictness. I am not an AI subscriber, so using the free version.

    This time I got:

    Note the added helicopter, different cables, different spaceship and improved number of cat limbs compared to the old one which I got twice on the same day, which is:

    Interesting

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • felisfelis Posts: 4,472
    edited May 9

    Here is my version. I didn't seed it.

    It is some large cats, and one of them is somewhat odd looking.

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,712
    edited May 9

    Entered Prompt with seed.

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