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seriously?
I mean that would be all of them, you know.
just saying …
I guess I'm done — no more gallery-uploads
sorry, but the ads on the gallery pages are way too intrusive
I got that same ad yesterday in the froums on my phone,
Umm, are you guys still seeing forum ads? They disappeared for me without using any ad blocker. Too good to be true, or a temporary glitch?
You're making an assumption that I use social media sites. I don't. No Facebook, no Twitter, etc. Believe me, staying away from such places does wonders for one's mental health (not to mention online privacy).
I saw ads yesterday in the gallery and forum. Today I don't see them. Have they been removed, or is my ad blocker just working better?
Richard, I hope you read the following post in the manner I wrote it -- I'm not mad at you or Daz, I'm not yelling at anybody, I just want to highlight the absurdity of the suggestion you and other mods have made.
With all these obstrusive ads, Daz has made choices which are extremely customer-unfriendly. And now you want us to take the time to do the job that Daz itself should be handling? Sorry, but Daz can do its own work.
A really simple solution to porn ads or cypto-schemes etc appearing in the Gallery and Forum? Get rid of the ads!
Sorry, but I'll have to take the other side -- Daz sells products and a tiny part of the profit from its sales can be used to run the Gallery and Forum.
And the ironic thing about this situation is that customers posting things in the Gallery and Forum provides free advertising for Daz Studio, showing what it can do and enticing new users to buy stuff. If users are driven away, Daz will not reap that benefit.
I haven't seen them at all, not at work with W10+Chrome and not at home with W7+Yandex (Opera)
When loading a page, it leaves a space for a second at the top of the page, but even that goes away before the page has fully loaded.
I'm not seeing them now. Hopefully they are gone.
Ok, same here now...so there is still the space reserved for ads, which is why I fear they might be back, after DAZ filter the most offending NSFW stuff?!
and blocked.
I was replying, a little flipantly, to the idea that "users" in aggregate would drift away, presuambly to other places (most of which already carry ads) - not making an assumption about what you would do.
Daz doesn't have fine up-front cotnrol of what is shown (I think they can set some category/type limits, but those are clearly not reliable). They can block specific ads, however. Getting rid of all ads or keeping them is not a decision on which we have any say, however.
If every ad is reported we won't be able to deal with the flood (assuming they are not deliberately in abeyance) so that would be a waste of time and effort all round. But reporting things that are, granting ads are here, beyond the Pale iss omething we can usefully pass on to Daz and something that might serve to make them less unpleasant for most people.
You don't, but Daz has, and us all speaking against the ads means feedback.
I don't come to the gallery to fix my health or learn the newest gossip or do whatever else random ads want me to do or buy. I come to see what's possible within Daz, and if I'll shop, I'll shop at Daz for products linked in the gallery. I will not click on an ad, and its presence will discourage me from visiting the gallery and uploading, so assuming there's more like me, for whom the gallery is a place supporting decisions whether to purchase, by adding unrelated, intrusive advertisements is actually damaging that part of buying incentive. With products often linked in the gallery, those images have often the swing vote in decision whether I'll buy something or not. If visiting gallery becomes unappealing, all those "maybes" that could have been "yes, I do want to buy it" will just become an automatic "nope, pass" if the few promo pictures on the product's page didn't convince me.
But daz won't see the reports of ads that are not offensive in their own right, rather than for being ads at all, or breaking the ToS - so again, flooding us with reports of every ad won't do anything to persuade Daz to stop running them.
A space opens up for them, and they auto-hide themselves. SOMETHING is still happening, but I'm not seeing the actual ads. I'd prefer even that didn't happen, but it's still an improvement.
I can see both sides of this. On the one hand, you're correct that while Daz STUDIO might be free, DS is just a loss leader for the assets available in the store. Unlike Facebook, Twitter et al, Daz sells products directly to the consumer, and theoretically that should underwrite things like the forums and gallery. On the other hand, the forums and gallery are entirely free to the user, and I see some justification in running ads to offset those costs.
I don't do farcebook because of ads. In fact I don't do any social media due to ads. For me, ads are an unwelcome intrusion that I don't accept. DAZ is welcome to do all the ads they want on the forum, it is their space after all, but I shan't see very many because I don't need or want to see them. I will be disappointed if they return (I can't see any at the moment), but I wouldn't stay. I used to regularly go to The Fountain Pen Network, a hobby I adore and moderated as a volunteer there for 7 years, but they started taking ads. Not been back for a decade other than an annual check to see if they still do. On the bright side, restarting ads will save me a lot of money in the long term. At least with this hobby, until I find another. Regards, Richard
Since my early morning posts, I heard about the loss of AT&T, Mobile-T, and another carrier's cell phone service today. Was there a hack? No idea. But a lot of things could have happened.
I do know that over ten years ago, I worked as part of a team that managed a website that was free of charge, publishing stories by authors, some of whom have gone on to be published. We asked if someone could afford it, donate what they could afford. Otherwise enjoy. If we didn't get enough donations, we made up the costs for servers and we did all the other jobs to keep the site(s) running on our own unpaid, time. No adds ever showed up on our site(s). We didn't want to detract from the worlds created by the authors.
My reaction this morning was like walking into a real museum of fine art and seeing graffiti spread across the walls, or tacky sales pages from the worse news pages you see in your city. It was a shock. No artist wants that around their work. No one wants to view art in that environment. I am not a frequent visitor to the gallery, but when I do drop in, I totally appreciate the effort every artist at DAZ has taken to use and share their skills. I am in awe of them. I have cried, laughed, smiled, and just wanted to hug them.
The gallery is a sacred place to appreciate art. Please respect it.
I guess not having the ads was too good to be true. I am again seeing ads both on the forum and in the gallery.
I don't want to be like Ross!
Could somebody please show me an example of another commercial site that has ads for offsite products and such? Because I'm really not finding any in my searching. Which is weird, if everybody is doing it, right? Also, I'm wondering why in the world DAZ would want to encourage customers to leave the DAZ site, which is what offsite ads do. I'm just having trouble with this whole concept.
I'm not fond of ads unrelated to the store/forum I'm visiting. I do understand the need for a business to maximize their income streams.
As others have pointed out, the gallery ads detract from the viewing experience there.
I'm not in the demographic that clicks on website ads as I always ignore them. However, I really do enjoy seeing my daily DAZ and DAZ+ emails every morning before I log in to the DAZ website.
Nor am I fond of ads inside of DAZ Studio itself (DIM is fine). I'm there to get underway with my creative process and find the (few) ads distracting and a waste of space in the dialogue boxes. That said, I'm not greatly upset with it in the current implementation.
A few minutes ago I put all my 2023 DAZ store orders into a spreadsheet to tally up how much I'd spent here during 2023. I'm certain that DAZ doesn't consider me a valued customer with just $5,317.99 worth of purchases last year. That seems like an insignificant amount for DAZ's revenues, so I have no right to voice my opinion, but here we are. :)
In 2022, after various product quality and forum issues, I slowed down my spending here. I used the money I set aside for my 3D/photography/computer/tech hobbies and spent some of it to buy a new 2022 electric vehicle in full. So that was a time when I decided not to support DAZ as much as I'd have done otherwise.
I'm getting the same vibes now. My impression is that DAZ seems to be struggling somewhat, which may not be accurate. But it's the impression I'm getting from the consumer side of things. Also, the lack of DS 5 that will help bring more parity with the Windows version for us Mac users. It looked like we were getting close in July 2021, but almost 3 years later and we're still limping along with a modestly useful version on newer (Apple Silicon) Macs.
I've been filling my wishlist with the recent new releases over the past few weeks and only picking up the occasional freebie when I feel like it.
I use DAZ Studio very nearly every day to create new character dial ups and sample renders. I get a lot of enjoyment from that and showing what I've done with others. There are so many great folks here and at other websites.
Best wishes to DAZ that they continue to have a successful business now and well into the future.
Lee
Other similar to Daz sites I know of do not link or allow links to offsite products/services. And if the previously mentioned Ross is the same one I'm thinking of, no ads there except for the products that they sell and banner ads for the vendor's stores. Which I don't mind since I may actually be interested enough to click on, so I've whitelisted them in AdBlock Plus. But the sort of spammy crud that fills up one's screen on places like Facebook, etc. gets dropkicked into the nearest black hole -- and good riddance!
Please, Daz, do not go that route.
"Some do and some don't" sounds to me like it might be A/B testing, to see how people respond. If so, it would be a good idea to immediately close the page the instant you see an ad.
Now that multiple mods have responded to the thread without clearly stating that the ads were not a deliberate choice on Daz's part, I think we can safely say that it's not a hack.
I have not seen anything so far today, but yesterday I did see the blurred out spaces some people mentioned when I tried browsing the gallery. As if something was trying to load but couldn't quite make it. In addition to ABP I also have Ghostery and EFF's Privacy Badger, so maybe they caught what AdBlock missed. Previously this site was whitelisted for me, now that I've taken it off whitelist I'm seeing 7 blocked items, which I presume are the aforementioned ads, and another 8 trackers. My browser is Chrome, and I also use the ad/popup blocking and privacy features (what few there are nowadays) in that. Perhaps this is a trial run before they roll out ads all over. I do hope not, that would be very unwelcome, except as I've said, if what's being advertized is relevant to artistic interess and pursuits.
Fingers crossed this is just another passing Daz Fad.