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Nice tail :-)
Thanks. StickyChain is becoming indispensable.
Seemingly all present and correct (it is now, actually, in the list of installed items in DIM - it used to drop out whenever I re-started DIM, so that's a bonus), EXCEPT it does not appear in the Create menu!
When you are in DAZStudio does it appear in the list of Installed Plugins?
Have you input your registration number?
It will stop working after 7 14 days if you have not registration it by inputting your registration number. (Serial number from your DAZ > Account > Serial Numbers)
If it does appear in the list of Installed Plugins in DAZStudio, and you have input your registration number then:
In DAZStudio when you go into Customize DAZ Studio (e.g. menu Window > Workspace > Customize, or F3 key)
Is there a "StickyChain" Actions group ?
Happily, after entering the key, restarting Daz Studio it ow shows up as an option on the Create menu - thank you for assistance!
How to use it? Clicking these icons does nothing:
Thanks - restarting daz helped
I will add that information to the manual, in any future update.
If you still have any questions or problems let me know.
My thanks as well to barbult for helping.
<EDITED>
Sorry my mistake, I miss represented the impact of DAZ Studio 4.22 on plugin.
It works fine when I have it installed
Regards
Surreal
Hi guys, I purhcased this plugin and works amazingly... however I have a problem.
The end of my chain, no matter the object (rigged) an issue occurs at the end of the chain (the "yellow" sphere of the tutorial) the item gets deformed, squished on itself. This doens't happen with unrigged items. I tried on a tail (cat and a geograft tail on a human), on a pony tail (hair), and an actual chain prop - it happens in all of them. ANy idea how to solve it and what's causing it?
Hi ladywolf1, I am away from my computer for two weeks so will try answering this from memory.
Is the "2. Chain End" of your sticky chain a Skeleton type of node?
Root cause: When a 'Skeleton' type node is selected as the "2. Chain End" the plugin can get confused about the node's beginning and end and how and what it should rotate. Thus, the plugin may fold all the skeleton's child nodes in on themselves.
Workaround: When you want to use multiple rigged objects in a single chain, the "2. Chain End" should be a child node within the second rigged object (e.g. hip). Not the 'Skeleton' of the second figure. . Not applicable to latest version 2.9
My memory is not as good as it used to be
The distance between a figure's root node point (skeleton's point of origin) and the Hip node point can make it problematic to use figures within a stickychain.
The StickyChain plugin works best with evenly spaced links (distance between the nodes within the chain of nodes). When the distances between the nodes vary significantly, the plugin may not position the end node on the StickyChain node and the chain curve may be twisted or kinked.
For best results, when using figures as sub componts within a StickyChain;
1. Before parenting the figure, poition it so that figure's root node is about the same distance from the node it will be parented to as that node is from its parent node (i.e. evenly spaced nodes).
2. If the hip is included in the StickyChain chain of nodes, position the figure's hip node about the same distance from the figure's root node as the distance between the other nodes within the chain (i.e. evenly spaced nodes). This is not required if the figure's root node is the "2. Chain End" of the stickychain.
Root cause: StickyChain works best with evenly spaced nodes.
Workaround: When using a figure as links within a StickyChain of nodes, make sure the distance between the figures root node and its parent and the distance between hip node and the figures root node are roughly the same as the distances between the other nodes within the chain.
i bought this plugin. I was fully aware that it doesn't have any chain assets. Apart from making my own, can someone suggest something that looks like a chain and works with it?
I'd hoped the chain that comes with this might work...
https://www.daz3d.com/ball-and-chain
But it produces an error. I'm going to be unhelpful and say I'm not currently at the PC, so it it was supposed to work, I can't recall what the error was (something about the end node not being suitable I think). If that was expected to work, I'll report back. But if not, then what else could I use?
Thanks!
Hi AndrewJJP,
StickyChain should work with the 'Chain.cr2' and 'Ball And Chain.cr2' assets in https://www.daz3d.com/ball-and-chain
TIP: If the chain disappears when you enable the StickyChain, press Ctrl+Z(Undo) then move either the StickyChain node or the Root node. The problem is if the StickyChain node and the node assigned as the Root of the StickyChain are both at the same location the plugin can get confused about how to arrange the links across a zero distance.
When you do get some time let me know what the error you are getting is, and I will investigate.
The promo images and videos were created using some of the assets from
SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes
Collars and Leashes for Daz Dog(s) 8
I will try to find some time today or tomorrow to compile a list of other products that will work.
STRINGS has a nice chain that works well with Sticky Chain. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8004501/#Comment_8004501
Afew posts down from that is a small video of those chains animated.
Thanks very much!
Thanks, I'll get back to you. I'll also double-check I have the latest, but I'll still let you know if an upgrade fixed it.
Thank you barbult
This is by no means an exhaustive list of all, it is just the few I have looked at
Asset Product Author Link
Chain.duf Strings Mechasar https://www.daz3d.com/strings
Bramble.duf Strings Mechasar
Flex.duf Strings Mechasar
Liana.duf Strings Mechasar
Lights.duf Strings Mechasar
Neon.duf Strings Mechasar
Rope.duf Strings Mechasar
Tube.duf Strings Mechasar
Tape.duf Strings Mechasar
NOTES: There are limits on some 'base' nodes, rotate the base node manually to remove unusual kinks in shape when using StickyChain.
MVCK 10-Link Iron Chain.duf Medieval Village Construction Kit The Alchemist https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-village-construction-kit
MVCK 8-Link Iron Chain.duf Medieval Village Construction Kit The Alchemist
MVCK Chain Shackle Large.duf Medieval Village Construction Kit The Alchemist
MVCK Chain Shackle Small.duf Medieval Village Construction Kit The Alchemist
SYSG3 01 Chain Small.duf Shackled! Genesis 3 SickleYield2016 https://www.daz3d.com/shackled-genesis-3
SYSG3 Ball And Chain Left.duf Shackled! Genesis 3 SickleYield2016
SYSG3 Ball And Chain Right.duf Shackled! Genesis 3 SickleYield2016
SYSG3 08 Ball And Chain.duf Shackled! Genesis 8 SickleYield2018 https://www.daz3d.com/shackled-for-genesis-8
VGED Pocketwatch Chain ZERO.duf Victorian Gentleman's Evening Dress for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Males The Alchemist https://www.daz3d.com/victorian-gentlemans-evening-dress-for-genesis-8-and-81-males
VGED Watch & Chain - Jacket Pocket.duf Victorian Gentleman's Evening Dress for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Males The Alchemist
VGED Watch & Chain - Vest Pocket.duf Victorian Gentleman's Evening Dress for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Males The Alchemist
VGED Watch in Hand.duf Victorian Gentleman's Evening Dress for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Males The Alchemist
Rustic Rope Reins.duf Rustic Cart and Yoke for Daz Horse 3 Sixus1 https://www.daz3d.com/rustic-cart-and-yoke-for-daz-horse-3
SYRTDF Rope 01 Small.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield https://www.daz3d.com/sy-dforce-ropes-vines-and-tubes
SYRTDF Rope 02 Small Med.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield
SYRTDF Rope 03 Med.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield
SYRTDF Rope 04 Med Long.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield
SYRTDF Rope 05 Long.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield
SYRTDF Rope 06 Extra Long.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield
SYRTDF Rope 07 Coil.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield
SYRTDF Rope 08 Room Set 01 Pipes 01.duf SY dForce Ropes, Vines and Tubes SickleYield
Dog Leash.duf Collars and Leashes for Daz Dog(s) 8 Daz 3D https://www.daz3d.com/collars-and-leashes-for-daz-dogs-8
10ft Chain.cr2 10ft Easy Pose Chain BionicRooster
Cable Segment.cr2 Cable And Chains Pappy
The issue regarding the StickyChain and the node set as the '1. Chain Root' at the same scene location
is a more significant issue than I initially thought. For a few assets node combinations pressing Ctrl+Z(Undo) will not restore the assets visiblity. I will need to investigate a solution.
ISSUE: If the StickyChain and the node set as its '1. Chain Root' are both at the same scene location when the StickyChain is set to Enabled. The plugin incorrectly sets the parameters on the node between '2. Chain End' and 1. Chain Root' to NAN, which causes the nodes to disappear from the scene.
ROOT CAUSE: If the StickyChain and the node set as its '1. Chain Root' are both at the same scene location the distance between them is zero. The zero distance will cause the plugin to fail to calculate the positions for the nodes between '2. Chain End' and 1. Chain Root'. It will set their X,Y,Z Rotate to NAN. On some it may also set their X,Y,Z Translate to NAN.
WORKAROUND: Before setting the StickyChain to Enabled ("0. Enabled" to 'On') move the StickyChain or the '1. Chain Root' node (or any of its parent nodes) slightly so that the StickyChain and the node set as its '1. Chain Root' are not both at the same scene location.
I got it to work. I think the issue may have been I was clicking on the root first rather than the end of the chain. It's fantastic!
Great, thanks for letting me know Andrew.
Now I just need to fix the zero distance problem.
No problem :)
Hi, Any MacOS users with the StickyChain Plugin?
Are you having any problems with the StickyChain Plugin with the latest version of Daz Studio (version 4.23) on MacOS?
It tests ok for me on MacOS High Sierra, however that may not be representative of the full MACOS ecosystem.
Regards
surreal
I just tested it with Daz Studio PB 4.23.0.4 on MacOS Ventura (10.13) and it worked as intended.
Thank you Elor
For whom it may be relevant.
I find that a "Plugin failed to load" error message in the About Installed Plugins window usually indicates a corrupt .DYLIB (for Mac or .DLL for Windows) file.
The first thing to try is to delete and reinstall the plugin.
In DAZ Install Manager in the 'Installed' tab, select the plugin and select uninstall. - This will remove the plugin file from the DAZ Studio plugin folder however, the corruption may have originated from the downloaded package.
After it has been uninstalled, then select it in the 'Ready to Install' tab, and click on the three dots on the right and select the Delete package option. - This will delete the downloaded plugin package from the DAZ Package Archive folder on your computer.
After the package has been delete, then click on the Refresh button at the top of the Install Manager window. - When Install Manager refreshes it will compare your current downloaded packages with the list of packages available to you on the DAZ server.
The plugin package should reappear in the 'Ready to Download' tab. - Deleting the previously downloaded package means that it will then appear in the list of packages available for you to download.
Select it and reinstall.
If the problem persists contact the developer via forum pages like this one or direct (i.e via the messaging system associated with the DAZ Forums, cog icon in upper right of this forum page > Inbox > New Message)
External email can be a very unreliable means of communication.
Is there a way for me to get documentation about the last 4 parameters? End Rotation; Pole; Skip Twist nodeChain;Extra Resolver?
There is information about the parameters in the plugin's manual. When you install the plugin, the manual is installed in the DAZ Studio programs docs/Plugins folder.
e.g. "C:/Program Files/DAZ 3D/DAZStudio4/docs/Plugins/StickyChain/StickyChain Manual.pdf"
The parameters information should be down on page 12 and 13.
Program documentation never gets the time allocation that it deseves. So, if there is anything that need clarification / additinal information. Just ask.
For those that don't have the plugin:
3. End Rotation
Chain Rotation options End Rotation is an associated function. It has three options: None – No manipulation(rotation change) of the ChainEnd node is made when the StickyChain function occurs. Sticky – If End Rotation is set to “Sticky” when the StickyChain functionality operates, then following the manipulation of the chain’s nodes the End Rotation will try to rotate the ChainEnd node so that it has the same orientation relative to the orientation of the StickyChain node, as it did before the StickyChain operated. The “Sticky” option tries to maintain the same rotation between StickyChain node and ChainEnd node’s rotation. World Space – If End Rotation is set to “World Space” when the StickyChain functionality operates, then following the manipulation of the chain’s nodes, the End Rotation will try to rotate the ChainEnd node so that it has the same world space orientation, as it did before the StickyChain functionality operated. The “World Space” option tries to maintain the ChainEnd node’s same world space rotation.
*Note.1- If End Rotation is set to None then ChainEnd node keys are not overwritten. However, if End Rotation is set to Sticky or World Space then ChainEnd node keys are overwritten.
4. Pole
Pole is an associated function to enable control of the direction of the catenary curve (apparent gravity). The default “None” means that the catenary curve is oriented in the direction of -Y. e.g. The apparent direction of gravity for the catenary curve is in the -Y direction. Setting a pole node means that the curve will be oriented in a direction defined from the ChainRoot node position, to the Pole node position. e.g. The apparent direction of gravity for the catenary curve is in the direction from the ChainRoot node’s position to the Pole node’s position(at the instance the StickyChain triggers/detects a movement or time change ). NOTE: The Pole node’s position is only read at the start of a resolve operation(a change in the position or rotation of ChainRoot or StickyChain node or change in current time). The Pole node can be parented to any other Node including the ChainEnd node. This means that the position of the Pole node will change during operation. However, the resolver function only reads the Pole node’s position at the beginning of its operation and the movement of the pole node during operation is not visible to the resolver function. Movement of the Pole node does not trigger the operation of the StickyChain function. Thus, changing the position of the Pole node will have no effect on a StickyChain, until the instance the StickyChain function is triggered by a change in the position of the StickyChain node or the ChainRoot node.
5. Skip
Twist nodes Skip Twist node property assists when using Genises 8(and above) figure as part of a StickyChain sequence of node. As the “Twist” bones (e.g. …Shoulder Twist) are locked in two directions this significantly impacts the performance of the StickyChain’s function to position the ChainEnd at the StickyChain’s position. Setting the “Skip Twist nodes” property to one means that the StickyChain function will treat the “…Twist” bone and its parent as a single bone. This improves the performance of the StickyChain’s function in aligning the ChainEnd node’s position with that of the StickyChain.
6. Extra Resolve
Extra Resolve option adds an additional operation to each node position calculation. It is designed for short chains with locked or limited node rotation properties. It slows down the resolution process however it can improve the ChainEnd positioning performance.