(Diffeomorphic) Different SubD level, same vertex?

acdum1857

In the image, the SubD on the right is higher than on the left, but in edit mode, the number of vertices is the same.

(I exported the SubD 2 figure through 'Export HD To Blender'.)
Left : HD collection removed / Right : Non-HD collection removed

Daz to Blender Bridge has different vertices depending on the SubD level.

Why not in diffeomorphic?

(The document doesn't seem to have anything related to this.)

margrave

Is there a SubSurf modifier in the modifier stack?

acdum1857

No, it wasn't there.
('Export HD To Blender' adds Multires.)
So I added the SubSurf modifier and increased it to 2, but still no change to the vertex.

margrave

I have no idea what the Multires does--I think it's for sculpting?

A Subsurf modifier will subdivide your mesh, but it won't show those subdivided edges in edit mode. Not unless you apply the modifier.

acdum1857

When changing to edit mode, the object is displayed as level 0, so level 3 vertices, edges, and faces cannot be edited.
Also, the model imported to Zbrush via GoB is at 0 level regardless of the Multires level.
Because it is only exported as the level displayed in the edit mode.

 

If Multires supports sculpt mode but not edit mode,
can’t I convert the already created Multires into a Subdivision Surface at that level?

 

This is because the structure of the face division of Multires and Subdivision Surface is basically the same,
but if I remove Multires from the current object and add Subdivision Surface, the shape of the object is slightly different.
The more distal parts such as teeth, the larger the shape is damaged.

Padone

You may be interested in this.

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/438/inject-hd-shape-to-xin-and-thomas

margrave

acdum1857 said:

When changing to edit mode, the object is displayed as level 0, so level 3 vertices, edges, and faces cannot be edited.
Also, the model imported to Zbrush via GoB is at 0 level regardless of the Multires level.
Because it is only exported as the level displayed in the edit mode.

 

If Multires supports sculpt mode but not edit mode,
can’t I convert the already created Multires into a Subdivision Surface at that level?

 

This is because the structure of the face division of Multires and Subdivision Surface is basically the same,
but if I remove Multires from the current object and add Subdivision Surface, the shape of the object is slightly different.
The more distal parts such as teeth, the larger the shape is damaged.

Unfortunately, I know nothing about the MultiRes modifier, because I've always thought of it as "Subsurf, but for sculpting", and I don't really sculpt. It sounds like the MultiRes is trying to keep the HD details, but I honestly don't know.

Krys Kryngle

Not sure what you are trying to do here.  SubDiv and Multires keep the base mesh intact.  Exporting will export the base mesh.  Edit mode will edit the base mesh.  The only way to change it is to 'apply' the SubDiv modifer.  Then it will show the new vertex count in edit mode and the base resolution mesh is gone.  Margrave is right, MultiRes allows us to sculpt on the base resolution model, or any level of the subdivided model, so it really is subsurf, but for sculpting.

If you want to see the vertex count without applying the modifiers,

- Turn on 'statistics' in the top right of the viewport, image attached

- Select the model in question (outlined in yellow), then hit 'shift + h' to hide everything else in the scene

- Then you can adjust the SubDiv or Multires number for the viewport and see the vertex count.

acdum1857

I understood. You explained clearly. Thank you.
My intention was to gradually increase the SubDiv in Blender and export it to Zbrush to complete the sculpting.
(Sculpting generally starts with a low SubDiv and proceeds to a high SubDiv.)
Because I tried to use Zbrush's features that Blender doesn't have.
But now, I think it would be better to somehow complete this work in Blender.

acdum1857

Padone said:

You may be interested in this.

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/438/inject-hd-shape-to-xin-and-thomas

That's an interesting way. I'll try it.
Thank you for giving me a new idea!