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  • DrunkMonkeyProductionsDrunkMonkeyProductions Posts: 999

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    Please, Stop trying to mis direct me in several different ways?

    Please, Keep to one direction not guiding me to a flawed direction that will cost me more money then what I am willing to spend out and NO $1000. dollars video or graphics, please?

    I just want a video card with cuda cores for the daz studio and enough memory power for gaming and video editing and Digital graphics "REAL" painting for t-shirt designs and books authoring.

    and Zbrush sculpting...

    I need one with Video ports, Not a workstation graphics card for stupid bitcion mining crap, I don't do that crap!!!

    I make things to make "REAL" money !!!

    Bitcion can kiss my butt!!!

    this what I can afford to work with:

    I need help what video card do I need for Daz Studio iray and stuff, is it a Nvidia video card for how many Cuda cores thats what people on the forums are telling me, I can still see LamH hair and Fur with just my CPU and AMD Video card.
    but for faster renders what type should i have for Nvidia video card?
    should it be this
    https://www.newegg.com/nvidia-quadro-k5200/p/2VV-000H-00054
    or this one
    https://www.newegg.com/pny-vcqk6000-pb/p/N82E16814133494
    I can get the 12Gb one for around $649.99 and it has more cuda cores, but I don't want to pay out anything over $700. dollars cause its not worth it.

    I won't pay out anything over $700. dollars max so it has to be less!!!

     

     

    I think you've got a bit of a misunderstanding going on here.

    You don't need to replace your current amd GPu to use an nvidia GPU.You can have both(maybe).

    Depending on your particular system, all you need to do is add a second gpu of the nvidia type.

    The system i'm typing this on, a dell precision t3600, has an amd HD 5770 and a P106-100,

    The 5770 handles video, the p106 handles rendering.

    I pretty much use the same mixing of gpus in all my systems.

    My primary server/workstation, Firepro S9000 and a p106-100.

    My render server uses a Quadro NVS 510 and a tesla M40.

    And various and sundry mixes of Teslas, firepros, and what ever display adapter was cheapest on ebay that week.

    As long as the drivers or other software doesn't create a conflict, i'll use it.

     

    At the minimum, for DS v4.15

    COnsumer:GTX 980 Ti or GTX Titan X

    Professional:Quadro M4000, m5000, or m6000(12 or 24GB).

    Computational: Tesla M40(12 or 24GB)

    These are all maxwell series and are currently deprecated, meaning they will no longer be supported in some, as yet to be announced, version of DS.

     

    Pascal series

    Consumer: GTX 1060(6GB), 1070, or 1080.

    Professional:Quadro p4000, p5000, or p6000.

    Computational:Tesla P4, p40 or p100.

    Other:P106-100(6GB)

     

    Turing

    Consumer: RTX 1660, 2060, 2070, 2080, or titan rtx.

    Professional: Quadro RTX 4000, 5000, 6000, or 8000

    Computational: Tesla T4

     

    Ampere

    Consumer: RTX 30XX

    Professional: RTX A6000, A40

    Computational:RTX A100

     

    For some of the above list, i put them there, because they have at least 6GB of Vram. I consider this to be the absolute minimum for, practical, work in DS.

    You can use gpus with less, but it will be severly limiting.

    I'm also not considering the card for use as both a display adapter and a render card, but only for rendering.

     

    My big caveat here is that, not all systems can support mixing gpus, or can, adequately, handle multiple gpus, or GPUS with 12GB or more of ram, or having multiple high vram GPUS.

     

  • commando991_70eecfd4fccommando991_70eecfd4fc Posts: 98
    edited March 2021

     

    I need help what video card do I need for Daz Studio iray and stuff, is it a Nvidia video card for how many Cuda cores thats what people on the forums are telling me, I can still see LamH hair and Fur with just my CPU and AMD Video card.
    but for faster renders what type should i have for Nvidia video card?
    should it be this
    https://www.newegg.com/nvidia-quadro-k5200/p/2VV-000H-00054
    or this one
    https://www.newegg.com/pny-vcqk6000-pb/p/N82E16814133494
    I can get the 12Gb one for around $649.99 and it has more cuda cores, but I don't want to pay out anything over $700. dollars cause its not worth it.

    I won't pay out anything over $700. dollars max so it has to be less!!!

     

     

    I think you've got a bit of a misunderstanding going on here.

    You don't need to replace your current amd GPu to use an nvidia GPU.You can have both(maybe).

    Depending on your particular system, all you need to do is add a second gpu of the nvidia type.

    The system i'm typing this on, a dell precision t3600, has an amd HD 5770 and a P106-100,

    The 5770 handles video, the p106 handles rendering.

    I pretty much use the same mixing of gpus in all my systems.

    My primary server/workstation, Firepro S9000 and a p106-100.

    My render server uses a Quadro NVS 510 and a tesla M40.

    And various and sundry mixes of Teslas, firepros, and what ever display adapter was cheapest on ebay that week.

    As long as the drivers or other software doesn't create a conflict, i'll use it.

     

    At the minimum, for DS v4.15

    COnsumer:GTX 980 Ti or GTX Titan X

    Professional:Quadro M4000, m5000, or m6000(12 or 24GB).

    Computational: Tesla M40(12 or 24GB)

    These are all maxwell series and are currently deprecated, meaning they will no longer be supported in some, as yet to be announced, version of DS.

     

    Pascal series

    Consumer: GTX 1060(6GB), 1070, or 1080.

    Professional:Quadro p4000, p5000, or p6000.

    Computational:Tesla P4, p40 or p100.

    Other:P106-100(6GB)

     

    Turing

     

    Consumer: RTX 1660, 2060, 2070, 2080, or titan rtx.

    Professional: Quadro RTX 4000, 5000, 6000, or 8000

    Computational: Tesla T4

     

    Ampere

    Consumer: RTX 30XX

    Professional: RTX A6000, A40

    Computational:RTX A100

     

    For some of the above list, i put them there, because they have at least 6GB of Vram. I consider this to be the absolute minimum for, practical, work in DS.

    You can use gpus with less, but it will be severly limiting.

    I'm also not considering the card for use as both a display adapter and a render card, but only for rendering.

     

    My big caveat here is that, not all systems can support mixing gpus, or can, adequately, handle multiple gpus, or GPUS with 12GB or more of ram, or having multiple high vram GPUS.

     

    So, your saying I can get this graphics card Nvidia Tesla K80 24GB GDDR5 CUDA Cores Graphic Cards, for rendering only and Daz will work more smoother and faster with it and render faster too?

    because this graphics card has "NO" video ports just a WorkStation card, 

    here's its spects: Price $399.99 <---- cheapest one I can find with More Vram and High Cuda Cores...

    • Nvidia Part Number: 900-22080-0000-000/ 699-22080-0200-531
    • Memory size (GDDR5): 24GB
    • CUDA cores: 4992
    • Number Of GPUs: 2x GK120 GPUs
    • Delivers 5-10x Boost In Key Application Performance for applications such as STAC-A2, RTM, SPECFEM3D, CAFFE, miniFEE, LSMS, Cloverleaf, CHROMA, Quantum Espresso, QMCPACK, HOOMD- Blue, NAMD, LAMMPS, GROMACS, AMBER

    I am need something to ease the stress off my CPU and render faster and show the Iray Hairs and stuff on the Daz Display.

     

    Post edited by commando991_70eecfd4fc on
  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    So, your saying I can get this graphics card Nvidia Tesla K80 24GB GDDR5 CUDA Cores Graphic Cards, for rendering only and Daz will work more smoother and faster with it and render faster too?

     

    That is a Kepler GPU and as of DS 4.14.0.8 with Iray 2020.1.1 no longer supported (=not working at all) for rendering in IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/6200861/#Comment_6200861

    4.14.0.8 (November 10, 2020)

    • NVIDIA Iray
      • Integrated Iray 2020.1.1 (334300.4226); see this thread for more detail
        • REQUIRES: NVIDIA Driver 451.48 (or newer) on Windows; see NVIDIA Driver Downloads
          • NVIDIA recommends installing Studio Drivers
        • Adds support for Ampere GPUs (SM 8.0 / GA100)
        • Support for SM 3.X/Kepler generation GPUs has been removed - due to CUDA 11
        • Support for SM 5.0/"Small" Maxwell generation GPUs are marked as deprecated - matching CUDA 11
  • commando991_70eecfd4fccommando991_70eecfd4fc Posts: 98
    edited March 2021

    PerttiA said:

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    So, your saying I can get this graphics card Nvidia Tesla K80 24GB GDDR5 CUDA Cores Graphic Cards, for rendering only and Daz will work more smoother and faster with it and render faster too?

     

    That is a Kepler GPU and as of DS 4.14.0.8 with Iray 2020.1.1 no longer supported (=not working at all) for rendering in IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/6200861/#Comment_6200861

    4.14.0.8 (November 10, 2020)

    • NVIDIA Iray
      • Integrated Iray 2020.1.1 (334300.4226); see this thread for more detail
        • REQUIRES: NVIDIA Driver 451.48 (or newer) on Windows; see NVIDIA Driver Downloads
          • NVIDIA recommends installing Studio Drivers
        • Adds support for Ampere GPUs (SM 8.0 / GA100)
        • Support for SM 3.X/Kepler generation GPUs has been removed - due to CUDA 11
        • Support for SM 5.0/"Small" Maxwell generation GPUs are marked as deprecated - matching CUDA 11

    Okay, then which Video card or Graphics card from Nvidia for no more then tops $700. dollars would be worth the bother then??
    Hmm, this all seems very, very "FISHY" like a scam between Nvidia and Daz Studio to create and make NEW updates for IRay and stuff for Daz and then Nvidia, inc makes Newer Cards that cost over $1k to $3k to support Daz's new update Iray system!!!

    cause all the Video cards and graphic cards you guys mentions like 1080 and so on, I did search on Amazon and their all over priced of $1k up!!!

    No lower video cards for a cheap price even the 6GB and 4 Gb and 2 Gb ones are high price for a low powered card.

    so in order to have a good Power house video card from Nvidia,inc like 8Gb to 12GB or so so you can have for multible purposes like gaming and Video recording on Youtube and doing video editing and Zbrush sculpting and Digital graphic painting, you have to spend out over $1k dollars for one!!!

    I won't buy a card thats just 2Gb or 4gb or 6GB thats not enough memory for my Buisness for work or gaming playing!!!

    and plus, if I get just a graphics card with No video ports will Daz studio see that right without doing anything else?

     

    Post edited by commando991_70eecfd4fc on
  • commando991_70eecfd4fccommando991_70eecfd4fc Posts: 98

    Would this card work and pas your judgement?

    https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DisplayPort-Dual-link-ZT-P10800H-10P/dp/B01NCVICRY/ref=sr_1_30?dchild=1&keywords=nvidia+CUDA+11+1080&qid=1616299461&s=pc&sr=1-30

     

  • commando991_70eecfd4fccommando991_70eecfd4fc Posts: 98

    What about this video card?

    https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DisplayPort-Dual-link-ZT-P10800H-10P/dp/B01NCVICRY/ref=sr_1_30?dchild=1&amp;keywords=nvidia+CUDA+11+1080&amp;qid=1616299461&amp;s=pc&amp;sr=1-30&amp;th=1

     

  • commando991_70eecfd4fccommando991_70eecfd4fc Posts: 98

    I think this one be good. what you guys think?

    https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-ZT-P10800C-10P-IceStorm-Wraparound-Ultra-wide/dp/B01GCAVRSU/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=Geforce+GTX+1070+Ti+cuda&qid=1616303260&s=pc&sr=1-4

     

  • prixatprixat Posts: 1,589
    edited March 2021

    Yes, any flavour of 1080 is fine. Those prices are ridiculous and it looks like none of them are available!

    The way I got hold of a new RTX 3060 12GB and still keep the price vaguely reasonable, was to order it in a pre-built system.

    That may be more than your budget, but it may also be the only way to obtain any graphics card right now!

    Post edited by prixat on
  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,130

    Right now is the absolute worst time to be GPU shopping. You will be competing with scalpers using bots, miners, and other average customers in a speed clicking contest to have even a chance at one. And Newegg at least is actually selling them in a type of lottery called the Newegg Shuffle.

    3 things you need to look for in a GPU for fast renders are
    1. VRAM
    2. Number of CUDA Cores.
    3. Number of RTX/Tensor cores.

    If you run out of #1, the rest won't matter.

    Personally, I'm trying to score the 12GB 3060.

  • commando991_70eecfd4fccommando991_70eecfd4fc Posts: 98
    edited March 2021

    thanks Prixat I got this one, and thanks for the Help and Support dude :)

    EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC Gaming,12G-P5-3657-KR,12GB GDDR6,Dual-Fan,Metal Backplate

    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-12G-P5-3657-KR-Dual-Fan-Backplate/dp/B08WM28PVH/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=RTX+3060&qid=1616364755&sr=8-1

     

    Post edited by commando991_70eecfd4fc on
  • alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,203

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    PerttiA said:

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    So, your saying I can get this graphics card Nvidia Tesla K80 24GB GDDR5 CUDA Cores Graphic Cards, for rendering only and Daz will work more smoother and faster with it and render faster too?

     

    That is a Kepler GPU and as of DS 4.14.0.8 with Iray 2020.1.1 no longer supported (=not working at all) for rendering in IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/6200861/#Comment_6200861

    4.14.0.8 (November 10, 2020)

    • NVIDIA Iray
      • Integrated Iray 2020.1.1 (334300.4226); see this thread for more detail
        • REQUIRES: NVIDIA Driver 451.48 (or newer) on Windows; see NVIDIA Driver Downloads
          • NVIDIA recommends installing Studio Drivers
        •  

     

     

    If I'm rendering with 4. 12 ...  will a kepler card still work?  

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    okay, to use a Nvidia graphics card with a AMD video gaming card how would i use that just to render the fur and hair graphics in Daz Studio ??

    would I be able to see the graphics on the monitor screen?

    if not I would need to just replace my video gaming card with a Nvidia Cuda Core gaming Video card , not a graphics card, Right?
     

    video gaming = graphics

  • matthammattham Posts: 5

    Thanks all posters for the info in this thread, I'm returning to Hobby 3D rendering after quite a break (my first product order online from Daz was in 2005 & my most recent one was 2012) Back then I was Poser/Bryce but the Daz Studio seems to really have progressed in leaps and bounds in my haiatus.

    Ive just configured an online PC to purchase:

    Gigabyte X570 ATX mobo
    AMD RYZEN 5 5600X
    32GB DDR4
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12GB R2.0 LHR Graphics Card
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W - TT Premium Edition Power Supply

    The Mobo & PS overkill are in the hope that down the track a bit when all this crazyness is over & newer Nvidia cards are released I have the option to purchase another 3060 at a cheaper price to add a second card.
    You never know.... i might get lucky lol

     

    Matt :-)

  • alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,203

    alan bard newcomer said:

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    PerttiA said:

    commando991_70eecfd4fc said:

    So, your saying I can get this graphics card Nvidia Tesla K80 24GB GDDR5 CUDA Cores Graphic Cards, for rendering only and Daz will work more smoother and faster with it and render faster too?

     

    That is a Kepler GPU and as of DS 4.14.0.8 with Iray 2020.1.1 no longer supported (=not working at all) for rendering in IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/6200861/#Comment_6200861

    4.14.0.8 (November 10, 2020)

    • NVIDIA Iray
      • Integrated Iray 2020.1.1 (334300.4226); see this thread for more detail
        • REQUIRES: NVIDIA Driver 451.48 (or newer) on Windows; see NVIDIA Driver Downloads
          • NVIDIA recommends installing Studio Drivers
        •  

     

     

    If I'm rendering with 4. 12 ...  will a kepler card still work?  

    Theoretically ... I do have a 4.12 on my win 7 machine so I could do iray on that doubling up the titanx with the k80? 
    Well, I have the parts to try that. 
    And I have the win 10 machine up and running 423 so I can access the new tools. 
    Just need a few more hours in the day. 
    Will try to post info on this. 
    It is a workstation/server board with dual xeons so does have room for both cards and runs cool anyway. 

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