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  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,939
    edited January 2021

    kyoto kid said:

    ...it even has the filler line and shut off valve.

    So the lid and seat can be up together, the lid and seat can be down together. Final, crucial, question can the seat be down while the lid is up? :)

    If the answer to that is yes then this truly is the pinnacle of DAZ toilet manufacture and should win some sort of prize.

    Post edited by Haruchai on
  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    Hmm what about these? Looking promising...https://www.daz3d.com/i13-theatre-with-poses

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 8,939

    Sven Dullah said:

    Hmm what about these? Looking promising...https://www.daz3d.com/i13-theatre-with-poses

     I have that set, and while it's a great set with a lot of hard to find items, the toilets are only average.  The lid does raise and lower but there's no seat and it also has a button flush on top of the tank.  Beyond that, for those who want to know, the toilet paper dispenser is a single fused part of the stall wall, and while the stall door does open and close, the door lock is a fixed item so neither is really usuable for animation.  Given that a lot of vendors whouldn't have even bothered to include a bathroom interior, though, I can't complain about the overall package.  

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    Cybersox said:

    Sven Dullah said:

    Hmm what about these? Looking promising...https://www.daz3d.com/i13-theatre-with-poses

     

     I have that set, and while it's a great set with a lot of hard to find items, the toilets are only average.  The lid does raise and lower but there's no seat and it also has a button flush on top of the tank.  Beyond that, for those who want to know, the toilet paper dispenser is a single fused part of the stall wall, and while the stall door does open and close, the door lock is a fixed item so neither is really usuable for animation.  Given that a lot of vendors whouldn't have even bothered to include a bathroom interior, though, I can't complain about the overall package.  

    Tks good to know;) 

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited January 2021

    Cybersox said:

    Sven Dullah said:

    Hmm what about these? Looking promising...https://www.daz3d.com/i13-theatre-with-poses

     

     I have that set, and while it's a great set with a lot of hard to find items, the toilets are only average.  The lid does raise and lower but there's no seat and it also has a button flush on top of the tank.  Beyond that, for those who want to know, the toilet paper dispenser is a single fused part of the stall wall, and while the stall door does open and close, the door lock is a fixed item so neither is really usuable for animation.  Given that a lot of vendors whouldn't have even bothered to include a bathroom interior, though, I can't complain about the overall package.  

    Since you have that set...another question: I need to convert it to 3DL/aweSurface, what kind of maps (metallicity, bump, displacement, roughness, normal?) are included? There's no mentioning on the product page. Tks!

    Post edited by Sven Dullah on
  • felisfelis Posts: 4,205

    Sven Dullah said:

    Cybersox said:

    Sven Dullah said:

    Hmm what about these? Looking promising...https://www.daz3d.com/i13-theatre-with-poses

     

     I have that set, and while it's a great set with a lot of hard to find items, the toilets are only average.  The lid does raise and lower but there's no seat and it also has a button flush on top of the tank.  Beyond that, for those who want to know, the toilet paper dispenser is a single fused part of the stall wall, and while the stall door does open and close, the door lock is a fixed item so neither is really usuable for animation.  Given that a lot of vendors whouldn't have even bothered to include a bathroom interior, though, I can't complain about the overall package.  

    Since you have that set...another question: I need to convert it to 3DL/aweSurface, what kind of maps (bump, displacement, roughness, normal?) are included? There's no mentioning on the product page. Tks!

    Apparently basecolor, metallic, normal and roughness.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/24280/file_list

     

     

  • thd777thd777 Posts: 933
    edited January 2021

    Haruchai said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...it even has the filler line and shut off valve.

    So the lid and seat can be up together, the lid and seat can be down together. Final, crucial, question can the seat be down while the lid is up? :)

    If the answer to that is yes then this truly is the pinnacle of DAZ toilet manufacture and should win some sort of prize.

     The lid and seat move independently. On top of that the flush handle and the stop valve turn. The toilet paper roll has two morphs and on top of that is set up for dForce.

    This set is perfect for those of you that want to simulate/animate a visit to the inner sanctum with every detail...

    TD

    Post edited by thd777 on
  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    felis said:

    Sven Dullah said:

    Cybersox said:

    Sven Dullah said:

    Hmm what about these? Looking promising...https://www.daz3d.com/i13-theatre-with-poses

     

     I have that set, and while it's a great set with a lot of hard to find items, the toilets are only average.  The lid does raise and lower but there's no seat and it also has a button flush on top of the tank.  Beyond that, for those who want to know, the toilet paper dispenser is a single fused part of the stall wall, and while the stall door does open and close, the door lock is a fixed item so neither is really usuable for animation.  Given that a lot of vendors whouldn't have even bothered to include a bathroom interior, though, I can't complain about the overall package.  

    Since you have that set...another question: I need to convert it to 3DL/aweSurface, what kind of maps (bump, displacement, roughness, normal?) are included? There's no mentioning on the product page. Tks!

    Apparently basecolor, metallic, normal and roughness.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/24280/file_list

     

     

    Thank you!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,948
    edited January 2021

    thd777 said:

    Haruchai said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...it even has the filler line and shut off valve.

    So the lid and seat can be up together, the lid and seat can be down together. Final, crucial, question can the seat be down while the lid is up? :)

    If the answer to that is yes then this truly is the pinnacle of DAZ toilet manufacture and should win some sort of prize.

     The lid and seat move independently. On top of that the flush handle and the stop valve turn. The toilet paper roll has two morphs and on top of that is set up for dForce.

    This set is perfect for those of you that want to simulate/animate a visit to the inner sanctum with every detail...

    TD

    ...with dForce on the bogroll sounds like you could even have a cat as the "visitor".  

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,056
    edited January 2021

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,573

    thd777 said:

    Haruchai said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...it even has the filler line and shut off valve.

    So the lid and seat can be up together, the lid and seat can be down together. Final, crucial, question can the seat be down while the lid is up? :)

    If the answer to that is yes then this truly is the pinnacle of DAZ toilet manufacture and should win some sort of prize.

     The lid and seat move independently. On top of that the flush handle and the stop valve turn. The toilet paper roll has two morphs and on top of that is set up for dForce.

    This set is perfect for those of you that want to simulate/animate a visit to the inner sanctum with every detail...

    TD

    Wow. With that attention to detail, I will have to force that item on my whishlist, and put the PA on my watchlist laugh.  

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,305

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    You can't do this the other way.

     

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,265

    Well now we'll have to upt the ante and look for toilets that have animations for flushing too lol ...

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,573

    Sevrin said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    You can't do this the other way.

     

    I had that in 2010 during a vacation in Tunesia. A stay in the Djerba Radisson Spa. Extended because of some Islandic vulcano. Well, you COULD get stuck in worse places laugh

  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,939

    thd777 said:

    Haruchai said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...it even has the filler line and shut off valve.

    So the lid and seat can be up together, the lid and seat can be down together. Final, crucial, question can the seat be down while the lid is up? :)

    If the answer to that is yes then this truly is the pinnacle of DAZ toilet manufacture and should win some sort of prize.

     The lid and seat move independently. On top of that the flush handle and the stop valve turn. The toilet paper roll has two morphs and on top of that is set up for dForce.

    This set is perfect for those of you that want to simulate/animate a visit to the inner sanctum with every detail...

    TD

    Thank you, this has just moved it from my Wishlist to my basket :)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,056

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Well now we'll have to upt the ante and look for toilets that have animations for flushing too lol ...

    FLUIDOS 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,948
    edited January 2021

    ..och, beat me to it.

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,305

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Well now we'll have to upt the ante and look for toilets that have animations for flushing too lol ...

    FLUIDOS 

    And the Aussies will complain that the water is going the wrong way around.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 8,939
    edited January 2021

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    Weird fact - Women are much more likely to favor placing the the roll with the loose part on the inside, against the wall, while men tend to do the opposite. 

    There is, actually, a proper way that dates all the way back to the original patents for rolled toilet paper filed by Seth Wheeler back in 1871.  That's with the loose flap out, specifically because it minimizes the amount of accidental contact that peoples' hands can have with the wall.... hence the reason it's always done that way in hotels.     

    Post edited by Cybersox on
  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,707

    Cybersox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    Weird fact - Women are much more likely to favor placing the the roll with the loose part on the inside, against the wall, while men tend to do the opposite. 

    There is, actually, a proper way that dates all the way back to the original patents for rolled toilet paper filed by Seth Wheeler back in 1871.  That's with the loose flap out, specifically because it minimizes the amount of accidental contact that peoples' hands can have with the wall.... hence the reason it's always done that way in hotels.     

    Female here, and always have the loose end out. Down the wall is an abomination.

  • Cora ReginaCora Regina Posts: 731

    Cybersox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    Weird fact - Women are much more likely to favor placing the the roll with the loose part on the inside, against the wall, while men tend to do the opposite. 

    There is, actually, a proper way that dates all the way back to the original patents for rolled toilet paper filed by Seth Wheeler back in 1871.  That's with the loose flap out, specifically because it minimizes the amount of accidental contact that peoples' hands can have with the wall.... hence the reason it's always done that way in hotels.     

    Then you've got us neutral types who don't put the roll on the holder at all, but instead set it on the counter or tank lid. Can't touch the wall if it's not near the wall!

    If you're gonna stick it on the thingie, though, anything other than flap out is heresy. My father puts it in the holder but literally does not pay attention to what direction it's oriented.

  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,939

    Cora Regina said:

    Cybersox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    Weird fact - Women are much more likely to favor placing the the roll with the loose part on the inside, against the wall, while men tend to do the opposite. 

    There is, actually, a proper way that dates all the way back to the original patents for rolled toilet paper filed by Seth Wheeler back in 1871.  That's with the loose flap out, specifically because it minimizes the amount of accidental contact that peoples' hands can have with the wall.... hence the reason it's always done that way in hotels.     

    Then you've got us neutral types who don't put the roll on the holder at all, but instead set it on the counter or tank lid. Can't touch the wall if it's not near the wall!

    If you're gonna stick it on the thingie, though, anything other than flap out is heresy. My father puts it in the holder but literally does not pay attention to what direction it's oriented.

    If you go someone else's house and they have it the 'wrong' way what is the etiquette for turning it round?

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,305

    Haruchai said:

    Cora Regina said:

    Cybersox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    Weird fact - Women are much more likely to favor placing the the roll with the loose part on the inside, against the wall, while men tend to do the opposite. 

    There is, actually, a proper way that dates all the way back to the original patents for rolled toilet paper filed by Seth Wheeler back in 1871.  That's with the loose flap out, specifically because it minimizes the amount of accidental contact that peoples' hands can have with the wall.... hence the reason it's always done that way in hotels.     

    Then you've got us neutral types who don't put the roll on the holder at all, but instead set it on the counter or tank lid. Can't touch the wall if it's not near the wall!

    If you're gonna stick it on the thingie, though, anything other than flap out is heresy. My father puts it in the holder but literally does not pay attention to what direction it's oriented.

    If you go someone else's house and they have it the 'wrong' way what is the etiquette for turning it round?

    That kind of depends on whether you were invited as a guest or are breaking in. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,056

    yeah it's odd, many feel very strongly about the flap over choice as seen here, but as the image shows cats can unravel it that way easily, I have also had it spontaneously unravel that way set in perpetual motion.

    I actually have two holders one each way enlightenedone on each side

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,604

    I'm just satisfied with the toilet roll being on the ring in some fashion.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 8,939

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    yeah it's odd, many feel very strongly about the flap over choice as seen here, but as the image shows cats can unravel it that way easily, I have also had it spontaneously unravel that way set in perpetual motion.

     

    Cats can unravel it the other way just as easily.  It's not as if the TP is actually flush against the wall, so there's always going to be something dangling. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,056
    edited January 2021

    Cybersox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    yeah it's odd, many feel very strongly about the flap over choice as seen here, but as the image shows cats can unravel it that way easily, I have also had it spontaneously unravel that way set in perpetual motion.

     

    Cats can unravel it the other way just as easily.  It's not as if the TP is actually flush against the wall, so there's always going to be something dangling. 

    mmm therein lies the problem, mine is, it dangles off a hinged wire, you do have to actually touch the wall to pull it off if over, the other holder is self enclosed with a hinged flap that sits on it 

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    Free standing solves all sorts of problems.  

     

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,015

    Cybersox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I rest my case as to why I put my roll on the way everyone says is wrong

    just curious, do you all wipe with the same hand that pulls off the paper or something that it matters?

    ( I keep in my case my right hand clean to flush and turn on tap as well as pull off paper)

    Weird fact - Women are much more likely to favor placing the the roll with the loose part on the inside, against the wall, while men tend to do the opposite. 

    There is, actually, a proper way that dates all the way back to the original patents for rolled toilet paper filed by Seth Wheeler back in 1871.  That's with the loose flap out, specifically because it minimizes the amount of accidental contact that peoples' hands can have with the wall.... hence the reason it's always done that way in hotels.     

    Any Mechanical Engineer understands there is a reason for not having the loose part against the wall... When you pull the paper, the roll moves away from the wall and creates no friction to stop spinning, resulting in what the kitty is trying to do.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 1,229

    ...maybe some thoughtful PA will come up with a store prop that sells a wide variety of toilet seats - like what one might find in some tremendously large hardware depot store. Wooden, plastic, long, short, heavy, light, themed ...

    I used to think the "soft" ones were cute - flexible plastic or vinyl surface, with foam cushioning? 

    #2 choice is the ones made out of poured resin, that had embedded stuff like seashells "floating" inside.

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