Ancient Roman and Greek Living Interiors (For sleeping, studying and eating)

Tanis Volta

Elios Pro Bundle and the next Elisia counterpart deserves better detailing on Home Living Interiors for those eras. Please!

katherinepoche_e11a5b0e7e

EquisVoid said:

Elios Pro Bundle and the next Elisia counterpart deserves better detailing on Home Living Interiors for those eras. Please!

I second that!

odastein

Thirding. Given how large DAZ 3D catalogue is, and how famous and frequently depicted the Roman imperial era is, there's a surprising lack of Roman-themed assets, even when including older items. 

True also for Greek-themed assets, but the Greek era is significantly less present in medias, etc...so I find it less surprising (and in fact I have the feeling that there might even be more Greek assets than Roman assets)

SpottedKitty

I think I remember an ancient Poser-format Roman villa and furniture/useful household stuff set at Renderosity. Very crude by modern standards and might not be very useable in D|S. Something more up-to-date along those lines would definitely attract my interest (and bank card).

odastein

Thirding. 

SpottedKitty said:

I think I remember an ancient Poser-format Roman villa and furniture/useful household stuff set at Renderosity. Very crude by modern standards and might not be very useable in D|S. Something more up-to-date along those lines would definitely attract my interest (and bank card).

This one, maybe : https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=119266 ? Although it's only the atrium, not the inside of the villa....Beautiful, though.

James_H

Definite purchase here.

SpottedKitty

odastein said:

SpottedKitty said:

I think I remember an ancient Poser-format Roman villa and furniture/useful household stuff set at Renderosity. Very crude by modern standards and might not be very useable in D|S.

This one, maybe : https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=119266 ? Although it's only the atrium, not the inside of the villa....Beautiful, though.

Very nice, but that wasn't it. There was a complete block from the front wall and door on to the street, through the atrium and surrounding rooms, a garden, and bathhouse with half-arch ceilings at the back.

On second thoughts, I can't remember now if it was Renderosity or RDNA — I buy almost everything from DAZ nowadays, but back then I visited a good few different stores.

Richard Haseltine

SpottedKitty said:

odastein said:

SpottedKitty said:

I think I remember an ancient Poser-format Roman villa and furniture/useful household stuff set at Renderosity. Very crude by modern standards and might not be very useable in D|S.

This one, maybe : https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=119266 ? Although it's only the atrium, not the inside of the villa....Beautiful, though.

Very nice, but that wasn't it. There was a complete block from the front wall and door on to the street, through the atrium and surrounding rooms, a garden, and bathhouse with half-arch ceilings at the back.

On second thoughts, I can't remember now if it was Renderosity or RDNA — I buy almost everything from DAZ nowadays, but back then I visited a good few different stores.

There was a multi-part Villa at RDNA which fits your descripton - one of the Transpond sets, which didn't come to Daz or any other store as I recall.

SpottedKitty

Richard Haseltine said:

There was a multi-part Villa at RDNA which fits your descripton - one of the Transpond sets, which didn't come to Daz or any other store as I recall.

That's the one — I've been digging in my Poser runtime, and I just found a folder "TP Roman Villa". Better than I remembered, although it is showing its age now. No actual doors, just empty doorways (yes, even the street entrance is not-a-door), no bump maps, the only way to enter the bathhouse doorway is to climb over the garden wall, etc.

Still, it has promise. I might fix it up for D|S and Iray one of these days.

WendyLuvsCatz

https://www.daz3d.com/flight-of-the-swan

maybe with an iray update and textures

and some nice DM sets

https://www.daz3d.com/dm-s-thermae

https://www.daz3d.com/dms-prompt-fantasy

https://www.daz3d.com/the-greek-bath

 

katherinepoche_e11a5b0e7e

We need a R.I.C.K. (Roman Interior Construction Kit) or a G.I.C.K. (Greek Interior Construction Kit). 

nomad-ads_8ecd56922e

Well, I'd buy a R.I.C.K. and G.I.C.K. system, particularly if there was some sci-fi-looking addon doodads for it, too.

odastein

katherinepoche_e11a5b0e7e said:

We need a R.I.C.K. (Roman Interior Construction Kit) or a G.I.C.K. (Greek Interior Construction Kit). 

I would buy a RICK. Possibly a GICK too. 

I would also buy an A.I.C.K. (Arabian Interior Construction Kit, Arabian Nights style)

5200north

I know this is an old thread,  but any new info on this one. I can't find anything usable for a roman scene other than outdoor space or interior pools...

richardandtracy

This looks relatively like reconstructed houses from Pompeii. https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/108119/roman-patrician-house

ZippyGuitar

Check out TheNextLevel's store. They've released several Roman style sets. I've been pleased with their quality. https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/vendors/TheNextLevel01

nomad-ads_8ecd56922e

There's a Daz Studio version of that Roman Patrician House, too.  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/150897/roman-patrician-house-for-daz-studio

That said, DeepSea has made a lot of nice Greco-Roman building interiors and whatnot, among other period structures.  True, they're not build-a-Roman-interior build packs, with separate walls and roof sections to click together like legos, but at least you have a variety of completed interiors to work with.

On the other hand, this might be useful.  https://www.daz3d.com/roman-doric-ornamental-temple-kit

rcourtri_789f4b1c6b

This thread does point to a problem with period environments in the Daz universe: We're offered a disproportionate number of throne rooms, temples, and mausoleums, but not the sort of sets that would allow for the depiction of any sort of everyday life, even the everyday life of the wealthy or noble. 

Perceived lack of a market?  Lack of interest from the PAs?  Unwillingness to do research into historic interiors?  I don't know.  

 

Gordig

rcourtri_789f4b1c6b said:

This thread does point to a problem with period environments in the Daz universe: We're offered a disproportionate number of throne rooms, temples, and mausoleums, but not the sort of sets that would allow for the depiction of any sort of everyday life, even the everyday life of the wealthy or noble. 

Perceived lack of a market?  Lack of interest from the PAs?  Unwillingness to do research into historic interiors?  I don't know.  

It's not just a Daz problem. Historical art tends to over-represent the upper classes, especially rulers, if only because they were the ones who could afford to hire artists.

rcourtri_789f4b1c6b

Gordig said:

It's not just a Daz problem. Historical art tends to over-represent the upper classes, especially rulers, if only because they were the ones who could afford to hire artists.

Obviously, the subjects depicted in art are often either selected by patrons directly, or aimed at the buying public (and therefore, dictated by the market).  But that fact does little or nothing to explain why, if you wanted to render (using Daz Studio) a contemporary scene in a modern kitchen, you'd have a multitude of choices, while for any other historical period, you'd have few or no choices for kitchens (but you'll probably have your pick of bathing pools or churches/temples).  With the available choices of contemporary/recent environments, you can depict a fairly full world in which characters/subjects go about everyday life (household chores, commonplace jobs, etc.).   You can't really attempt that in another time period. 

So my questions remain:

Is this because PAs don't think there is a large enough market to create environments to depict a reasonably complete past world?  Just temples, tombs, bathing facilities, etc.?

Is it because PAs don't want to create those kinds of environments regardless of the market for them?

Is it because such projects seem daunting?  

(Note: I'm not implying the situation is better with other 3D art applications.)

WendyLuvsCatz

probably because nobody knows what a 15 century kitchen looked like let alone  a Roman one

this has one https://www.daz3d.com/the-domus-of-victory-training-arena

richardandtracy

I think we do know what a working class kitchen in Pompeii looked like, from archeological evidence. It was a fast-food place down the street because the workers were too poor to afford a dwelling big enough to have space for a kitchen. This was frequently the same in the poorest areas in Victorian Britain. So one answer to why we don't see such models is because they didn't exist. Other reasons include the difficulty of research, paucity of evidence and, I think, general indifference. How many hours of filming of plastic Kardashians occur Vs hours of filming of Joe Bloggs down the road with a real job? Poverty is less interesting than wealth. Regards, Richard.

caravelle

Richard Haseltine said:

I think I remember an ancient Poser-format Roman villa and furniture/useful household stuff set at Renderosity. Very crude by modern standards and might not be very useable in D|S.

This one, maybe : https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=119266 ? Although it's only the atrium, not the inside of the villa....Beautiful, though.

Very nice, but that wasn't it. There was a complete block from the front wall and door on to the street, through the atrium and surrounding rooms, a garden, and bathhouse with half-arch ceilings at the back.

On second thoughts, I can't remember now if it was Renderosity or RDNA — I buy almost everything from DAZ nowadays, but back then I visited a good few different stores.

There was a multi-part Villa at RDNA which fits your descripton - one of the Transpond sets, which didn't come to Daz or any other store as I recall.

I own it and it is a nice, not too luxurious or pompous Roman villa urbana, a smaller country villa for the upper middle classes. It also contains nice furnishings. 

If Daz bought this bundle when they took over RDNA, maybe they could rework it with new materials and offer it again.

caravelle

rcourtri_789f4b1c6b said:

This thread does point to a problem with period environments in the Daz universe: We're offered a disproportionate number of throne rooms, temples, and mausoleums, but not the sort of sets that would allow for the depiction of any sort of everyday life, even the everyday life of the wealthy or noble. 

Perceived lack of a market?  Lack of interest from the PAs?  Unwillingness to do research into historic interiors?  I don't know.  

You name it!

Deepsea's excellent 'Domus of Victory' is one of the few sets here without thrones, temples or mausoleums. It is a ludus, a gladiator school, but it also contains private rooms (those of the owner of the school), such as an atrium or a private triclinium (dining room) and, in addition to the training arena, a large bathroom and the gladiators' accommodation. Some rooms, including the triclinium, are furnished.