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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,063
    edited April 2017

    I'd love to see you do a Ned Kelly one wink

    I may start on making his body armour today

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017
    Stezza said:

    I'd love to see you do a Ned Kelly one wink

    I may start on making his body armour today

    Hey Stezza, great idea. I had a go a few years ago but they werent really NPR but hopefully can do better now ??

    Looking forward to the armour :) !

    here was my attempt http://andrewfinnie.blogspot.com.au/2011/10/stand-and-deliver.html

    My blog tells me that on of the most the most common searches that lands people on my site is Ned Kelly,

    The other one is "Devil's Organ" - not sure what that is about....

    The blog counter says 224,000 hits or something silly.

    Have you heard of this singer - an Oz folk singer from the sixties from memory - amazing

    Marian Henderson is the first. Not sure who's on second - to quote Bud Abott

     

     

     

     

     

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  • VyusurVyusur Posts: 2,235

    Andrew, I like your impressive painting manner. But as for accuracy vs mess, I see too many regular lines, parallel/unnecessary objects, and symmetry of course. Btw I like fresh colours and your Sezan's style. The main criteria for me is whether I can watch a work for a long time. And your works perfectly pass the test.

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,063
    edited April 2017

    Ned

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  • VyusurVyusur Posts: 2,235
    head wax said:
    UnifiedBrain said:
    head wax said:
    I did actually blur some of the edges in other places,

    I did noticed that, and just thought that more was needed in the upper part.  But not too much, as it looks like Wyeth (in my whole 15 minutes of studing his technique, lol) tends to be subtle about it.  Not clean, but not way outside the edges either.  That's why I liked the sword.

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     there's other things that could be improved like the odd cut out shape between his upper thighs where the ground is too close in colour/tone to the coat .

    Since you have pointed this out - it's now all that I can see! :))  Repositioning the character or the background is likely a lot of trouble.

    All that aside, your experiments here are giving me a much greater sense of what is possible in Carrara, and in 3D in general.  Can't express my admiration for your work enough.

    You hit the target more often than not.  I have a lot more studying to do before I can even TRY to copy the style of a master.

     

    thanks @UB :) , here is another work after considering the comments I received - I think it's much better, thanks for the c and c

    :) I don't like his beard , so if I do it again  that will be different? Plus still some hard edges around the face?

     

     

    This one is much better, including the beard.

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    Vyusur said:

    Andrew, I like your impressive painting manner. But as for accuracy vs mess, I see too many regular lines, parallel/unnecessary objects, and symmetry of course. Btw I like fresh colours and your Sezan's style. The main criteria for me is whether I can watch a work for a long time. And your works perfectly pass the test.

    Hi @Vyusur , that's a very kind thing for you to say thank you! I'll sell a reasonable amount of landscapes here, but what people like are flowers! Once I learnt to make one flower the focal point above all the others, that made life easier.

    This one is much better, including the beard.

    and thank you again, I hope I am getting somewhere !

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    Stezza said:

    Ned

     

    another classic Stezza. I hope they are RMWilliams boots :)

    you didnt waste time banging out that armour. I take it you had a few plough shares spare .:)

     

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,063

    Thanks, already had the headgear from a previous effort... just quicly grabbed a disssused plough, heated and banged it up quickly laugh

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    Always handy to have one of those metal garbage lids around too :)

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    I've been listening to an audio version of 'Peter Pan' while driving back and fro from work. It's very interesting... and very silly. 

    JM Barrie paints luscious pictures with his words. Like when Wendy sews Peters shadow back on. I guess the book didn't need to be illustrated at all.

    I started at an easy one: 'While she slept she had a dream. She dreamt that the Neverland had come too near and that a strange boy had broken through from it.'

     

     

     

     

     

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,235
    head wax said:

     

    I started at an easy one: 'While she slept she had a dream. She dreamt that the Neverland had come too near and that a strange boy had broken through from it.'

    Very nice, especially the lighting (a gobo on a spot?)  I'm guessing both characters are K4?   One quibble, my first reaction was that her head and hands are floating above the bed.  Maybe a little more visible pillow.

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    Hey thanks Steve K, good point about the floating head ! It's because I lit her face with a bulb that had a tqo foot spread - must have missed out the pillow!

    Peter Pan is Genesis - pita as it kept crashing while I set him up....

    Wendy is K4. 

    Thanks for the comment about the lighting - it's a basic set up that I post processed using all the render passes to bring out different parts of the image :)

  • VyusurVyusur Posts: 2,235

    Andrew, I like your illustration. And I like the version with normal boy much more better.

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    Thanks @Vyusur :) Thanks for the c and c!  I have been wotking on a few character designs - seeing what I have. I would have finished Capn Hook a few hours ago but Car 8.5 keeps crashing - ... gah .

    Here;s another version of Peter. He's wearing a hat but it looks like too much hair!

     

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  • VyusurVyusur Posts: 2,235

    He looks like Ivy-boy.

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    Yes, he is covered in small wattle - he should be covered in skeletal oak leaves I think :)

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    Well here's a tongue in cheek Captain Hook. I think it will be the last for a while as my Win7 crashed this afternoon, I lost one of the drives and I think the sss C drive is on the way out.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588
    head wax said:

    Well here's a tongue in cheek Captain Hook. I think it will be the last for a while as my Win7 crashed this afternoon, I lost one of the drives and I think the sss C drive is on the way out.

    Yikes!  Hope you have backup.  I've lost two drives in the past 8 months.  The first one was a disaster, but it actually prompted me to look at DAZ3d stuff again, and eventually led to Carrara.  So I guess it had a silver lining.

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,063
    head wax said:

    Well here's a tongue in cheek Captain Hook. I think it will be the last for a while as my Win7 crashed this afternoon, I lost one of the drives and I think the sss C drive is on the way out.

    bugger

    and all this after you installed Carrara 8.5... crying

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    Thanks @UB and @Stezza, yes we'll blame 8.5 :)

    Ah I'm just making a system image. Had to buy a 1 tb hard drive to d0 it because it won't do it on a drive greater than 2 tb without fancy boot licking!

    But I seem to have lost a few usb ports and my wireless mouse works but the keyboard attached to the same wirless thing won't work.... I should have stuck with water colours :)

     

    I'm pretty sure I have a recent back up - I better! 

    anyways I needed a new computer .....

     

     

     

     

     

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,063

    yep.. windows 7 is so 1984ish devil  cool

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    Hmm is the 8.5 Beta buggy? - I just tried to open up Captain Hook and got and end of file error. The file for one character and clothes is approx 4.5 gig - he is Genesis.

    I'm just trying to save Smee and am geting an error when I try to save the file.

    My discs is external and has 3.25 tb free. I've grouped Smee and his clothes to save as a file in my objects and now the car file is frozen.

    I'm running 8.5 bete off an external drive. Could that be a problem?

    Looks like 8.5 for more than one Genesis is a no go?? Let me have a rant....

    Here's Genesis and the daz horse 2. I made him hairy to cover the joins. :)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,615
    head wax said:

    Hmm is the 8.5 Beta buggy? - I just tried to open up Captain Hook and got and end of file error. The file for one character and clothes is approx 4.5 gig - he is Genesis.

    I'm just trying to save Smee and am geting an error when I try to save the file.

    My discs is external and has 3.25 tb free. I've grouped Smee and his clothes to save as a file in my objects and now the car file is frozen.

    I'm running 8.5 bete off an external drive. Could that be a problem?

    Looks like 8.5 for more than one Genesis is a no go?? Let me have a rant....

    Here's Genesis and the daz horse 2. I made him hairy to cover the joins. :)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Nice blended version !!!!!

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,615
    edited April 2017

    Chimera 2

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

     

    Thanks Bunyip. That creature you made looks scary as anything ! What landscape is that btw?

     

     

     

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584

    Did you compress the .Car file? If so, change the extension to .zip and unzip it. That often gets around the error.

    There was another fault caused by using P3DO to edit icons in the .car file. I made a post about it at the time in my commercial thread, describing how to fix it, but I can't seem to find it there now.

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    Thanks Tim, yes I renamed the car to zip and used winzip 7, but it told me that there was nothing in the file to unzip - though it was >4 gig.

    I havent been using p3do I am afraid.

    I just moved my Car 8.5 beta over to my C drive and rebuilt Smee.

    It crashed again after about half an hour (told me there was an error when I tried to load a prop) now I get an error again so I cant save the file.

    I'll load up the non beta 8.5 and try again ... and then give up I think :(

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,615
    head wax said:

     

    Thanks Bunyip. That creature you made looks scary as anything ! What landscape is that btw?

     

     

     

    Hello Headwax, hope your file woes sort out, its a PITA when that happens.

    As regards the scenery is Noble Pines by the great Howie Farkes. The beastie is one of Valandar's creations.

    https://www.daz3d.com/noble-pines

    https://www.daz3d.com/chimera-2

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    Thanks Bunyip02 :) 

    Ah I hadnt seen the Chimera before - nightmares in that one!

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584

    P3DO highlighted the problem for me (because it generated a bunch of prop file in a production product that all had unexpected end of file errors), but it may simply be one of a number of ways to force the error. Anyhow, I found what it was and fixed it (by good old file compare!).

    If you open an uncompressed .car file in TextEdit or Notepad, you'll find it consists of a series of 4 character tags, each tag being followed by a bunch of data, sometimes in curly braces. Anyhow, one of those tags is Vlst, followed by a comma separated list of numbers. The first value is the number of entries in the list, then the entries themselves. Occasionally that's a long list (over 200 entries). What P3DO did -- and I'm assuming there are other ways for this to happen, even in Carrara itself -- is to truncate the line containing that list at 256 characters. So the stated number of entries didn't match the actual, and consequently opening the file failed with unexpected end of file.

    In my case those problem lines were easy to spot, as they ended in either a comma or a minus sign. They were pretty straightforward to patch up too.

    Anyhow, if you've got a text editor that can handle the file size, it could be worth loading the file up and looking through the Vlst tags.

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